Self balancing powered two wheeler

[G]

Ok they're showing it for an enclosed electric bike, but I could see something like that coming to maybe cruisers and scooters at some point. Can't see the extra weight and complexity ever being justified on say a sport or off road bike as actually bikes are pretty good at staying up as it is.
(And yes, they show it 'working' well on a low friction surface - sticky tyres on a nice day and it probably won't do so well, never mind throwing an actual rider off, etc.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0m-cUxMcJw
Edit - skip to 45 seconds for the balancing bits.

[anthony_r6]

How does it lean into turns if it's made to stay upright? I think it looks stupid too.
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[G]

It may actually use the gyro to help that too.

[TheSmiler]

So basically a squashed smart car, sheesh I would never buy one of them.
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[Rogerborg]

I approve of the Heinleinianism, but is there a big market for people for people who drop their bikes enough to warrant this kind of techno-panacea?

Also, how big or fast a gyro do you need to bring a bike and rider up from a lowside?

It's interesting, but it seems like a psuedo-solution looking for a problem.
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[felicity]

[Rogerborg]

I refer you to the BMW C1 for evidence about how lucrative that market is(n't).
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[felicity]

[G]

Not much of a market - thus thinking in the scooter and cruiser genre it would be more of a 'gimmick' to get some more sales in - can see cruiser riders loving getting off their bike without putting the side stand down .

[LordShaftesbu...]

Seeing as how the doors prevent you from putting your feet down it would have to be self-balancing. Needs a style redesign and a proper engine though.

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[LordShaftesbu...]

[keggyhander]

[G]

Cruisers are built for, we are told, well 'cruising'. Not fast handling which will be compromised by a gyro spinning fast enough to hold a bike up, etc.

You do get some 'gimmicks' on sports bike, but I wouldn't expect it to be of this kind.

Cruisers however have a large range of aftermarket accessories that reduce performance as well as changing looks - while sports bikes accessories which change looks tend to be neutral performance wise.

I was actually thinking more of the sort of 'gimmick' along these lines - https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3408/dsc032602wm.jpg

Go on, I'll bite right back...

[keggyhander]

[G]

No doubt I did criticise big cruisers for lacking power, ground clearance and grip.

I'd like to hear what was wrong with my approach, so I can try better next time.

[keggyhander]

[G]

I'd still like to hear where I'm going wrong riding cruisers .

Ah that explains the 'caught up'. I can still see that the Bandit riders may have thought they had gone for the overtake and found these other bikes pulling out on them. But without some helmet camera footage from their point of view we'll never know what they could have seen, never mind how they actually saw it.

Oh and a bandit is far from the hooligan choice. When it first came out, it was seen as such to some degree (at least according to MCN), as it was certainly sportier than the naked bikes out at the time. However, it's stayed still while the other parts-bin nakeds have moved the game on significantly.

[keggyhander]

[G]

So you can tell me it's a problem with my riding, but can't tell me what the problem is?
I'm confused as to how you would know about the problems with my riding in this case. Less confused that you can't explain it, actually .

No question to you, but given the situation, I rather suspect they believe they started the overtake first. Not suggesting I can know the situation, just what seems a likely explanation.

[keggyhander]

[G]

Then blamed the charger when you couldn't make it go round corners as good as the Elise.
Well yes, that was one of my criticisms. But your analogy is a tad out.
In reality, if this were the situation, I'd try the dodge charger and find as well as the handling being worse, it was no more comfortable than the Elise, was actually slower in a straight line, had less peak power and less power throughout the rev range. To try and match the Elise's acceleration being driven in a relaxed manner you had to completely rag it. If you try and 'mess about' (say drifting etc) on the charger it's less likely to work than in the elise.
Of course, the big front mounted v8 in the charger means that's not reality and in fact it does manage to actually be 'better' than the elise in a variety of ways.

As for this situation you are now getting all up tight about - and I really don't see why you posting it in the first place would have any bearing on cruisers being good or not - I was just pointing out there are two sides to the storey and in my experience inevitably both sides think they are right.
I took trouble to make it clear that as I wasn't there; I wasn't offering an opinion on what happened, merely on what the other party was likely to have thought happened.

[keggyhander]

[felicity]

Interesting thread derailed into pointless argument? Check.

[stinkwheel]

The folding, box carrying scooter thing would sell loke hot cakes in Amsterdam.
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