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TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Ride or get the bus (UPDATED BAD DAY TODAY) Reply with quote

Finally paid the cost for not ordering a spare

Just wondering went out earlier to see if the bike would work after the water incident however it wouldn't start even after a push down the hill.

Stupid punk kid pushed the bike over and cracked the hard plastic L plate as well as the [color=red]front brake in half[/color] (new ones on order).

Now the bike is ironically working first time no problem after pushing her back home.. however got a dilemma ride with broken brake or get the bus which would you do ?

(this will be for about 3 days most probably till new ones come)
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would ride. You've got a back brake and a gearbox.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my front brake 80% - 90% of the time. I wouldn't ride with just a back brake.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nai wrote:
I use my front brake 80% - 90% of the time. I wouldn't ride with just a back brake.


The front brake still works it's just the lever is now half the size.. the quality in brake levers is shocking.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've fallen foul of snapped front brake lever twice.

Good observations and gearbox plus back brake where needed have got me 30-40 miles on one occasion and 3 miles the other.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
Nai wrote:
I use my front brake 80% - 90% of the time. I wouldn't ride with just a back brake.


The front brake still works it's just the lever is now half the size.. the quality in brake levers is shocking.


Oh, I thought you meant the calliper had broken.

Just ride it then. You can use half a leaver.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just brake with 2 fingers on the broken lever, most motorcyclists use only two fingers anyway.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I would ride it. Although when I last had my bike stolen the gear lever got snapped. I was told I would get a P-something if I rode it and a copper stopped me.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can brake properly, ride it.

If you can't, don't.

Common sense, no?
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nai wrote:
I was told I would get a P-something if I rode it and a copper stopped me.


Hmm curious I'll have to check that out tomorrow if I see the regular police biker at university.

Regarding the L plate it is cracked but still resembles the letter L would it be best to get a cheap stick on one from the shop encase it cracks completely off.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if a copper does stop you.

You simply say you dropped your bike a few miles back.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ram a piece of tubing over the broken lever, problem solved.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just nipped get some L plates from the local garage as I can't really afford a £60 fine at the moment so got ripped off at £6.50 for 2.

The only ones they had in though were magnetic anyone know a quick way of holding the L plate steady.
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PostPosted: 04:05 - 07 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would ride . the buss always has one or a few mentalists on who i do not get along with . i have been riding on half a back brake for about 5 weeks now whilst i get the parts needed to do my drum-to-disc conversion . have a tootle about if you do not feel comfy just take the buss man .be safe

pushing bikes over is tantamount to a pedophile in my book and should be dealt with the same way . castration and the iron maiden and i do not mean cut there nob off and play them some metal lol

good luck
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PostPosted: 04:19 - 07 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been forced to ride bikes with no front brake at all for various reasons over the years. Just leave a massive gap in front of you and approach all junctions and roundabouts as if you're certain you'll have to stop. This will piss off other road user who get stuck behind you, but they can get fucked Laughing
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PostPosted: 04:40 - 07 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the replies going out at 7am see If I can get her sorted.. do a quick run I've ridden on the broken brake before once on my cbt (faulty back brake as well) and the other when it dropped outside a motorbike garage so not uncommon with it.

Stupid: I agree bloody vandal the kid is, constantly annoying most in the area even got an asbo the lot of good that has done him. Also have to agree on the buss as well takes over an hour to get 8miles.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 07 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok just to inform everyone it worked riding to university however.. trying to get off the carpark the bike tire got a plastic bottle caught making me go flying.

Now got a broken front brake, broken indicator bulb as well as boken end to the accelerator which is causing the bike to not rev correctly.. Cant even get an organized rev out of it.

Plus the battery has gone flat so now stuck just 8/9 pathetic miles away from home going to see If I can get the AA Relay to work their magic and get me home.

Only damage to myself is a caining right hand with lump in the middle as well as slightly scuffed kneecap.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 07 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't the levers designed to snap easily in the event of an accident?
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PostPosted: 03:45 - 08 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
Ok just to inform everyone it worked riding to university however.. trying to get off the carpark the bike tire got a plastic bottle caught making me go flying.

Now got a broken front brake, broken indicator bulb as well as boken end to the accelerator which is causing the bike to not rev correctly.. Cant even get an organized rev out of it.

Plus the battery has gone flat so now stuck just 8/9 pathetic miles away from home going to see If I can get the AA Relay to work their magic and get me home.

Only damage to myself is a caining right hand with lump in the middle as well as slightly scuffed kneecap.


If the throttle isn't working smoothly, chances are the grip tube has been pushed up the bar. Bar is plastic coated, and the coating sanded down where the throttle tube slides for a nice 'fit', further up, its thicker & would cause tube to 'jam', it was left thick to help the throttle body grip the bar, not being a pegged housing.

May also be that you have snagged or kinked cable when you droppid it a-bludy-gain!

Try loosing off the throttle casing from the bar, and re-aligning.

You do not NEED nor WANT a quick action throttle on THAT (or necessarily any other) bike!

Meanwhile, I have a pair of freshly coated bars, throttle tube, throttle casings, and various cables knocking around, as well as levers, and indicators, and possibly anything else might be needed to put the poor old girl to rights!

You DID mention pottering down next week-end... I take it that this latest incident sort of puts the kybosh on that plan?

Meanwhile I'm suffering dire case of man-the-fuck-up-flu, and kids have rescheduled to next weekend, and are expecting to do 'something' as its my 127th Birthday according to every-one, so may have been inconvenient anyway.

HOWEVER.... two conflicting ideas are bouncing about in my mind;

a) whether I even want to see my creation EVER again, the trauma of witnessing such suffering possibly being to much for my gentle nature.
b) whether I ought to come and re-patirate it, and give it required surgery, and YOU seriouse admonination!

A plastic fucking drinks bottle! FFS!

We face stealth manhole covers, glass tarmac, dieseil spill, every manner of almost inperceptible grip robbing substance known to man, to be spotted, and avoided at high speed, and YOU, come a cropper at walking pace on a MILK CARTON!

This does NOT, bode well, if your hazard perception and hazard avoidance cant deal with THAT one!
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 09 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:

If the throttle isn't working smoothly, chances are the grip tube has been pushed up the bar. Bar is plastic coated, and the coating sanded down where the throttle tube slides for a nice 'fit', further up, its thicker & would cause tube to 'jam', it was left thick to help the throttle body grip the bar, not being a pegged housing.

May also be that you have snagged or kinked cable when you droppid it a-bludy-gain!

Try loosing off the throttle casing from the bar, and re-aligning.


Well as described before everything was getting sorted but the car park was wet with leaves.. so wasn't really paying attention to a little bottle. Got everything else on order the replacements, just got sort this throttle out.

Anyway can't really find the throttle in a Haynes manual at the moment. And trying to get the throttle fixed myself.

One of the problems with the throttle is similar to this (no control) apart from with the choke out ... that is when the high revs happens. Not me in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNCQqRB7qLQ

Any idea what would cause that in the video.
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 09 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
Well as described before everything was getting sorted but the car park was wet with leaves.. so wasn't really paying attention to a little bottle. Got everything else on order the replacements, just got sort this throttle out.

So the lesson learned is?
Pay attension to EVERY-FUCKING-THING, becouse where you aren't paying attension lurks the 'little thing' that will jump up and bite you in the bum!

TheSmiler wrote:
Anyway can't really find the throttle in a Haynes manual at the moment. And trying to get the throttle fixed myself..


Its the 'Twist-Grip'... 'throttle' is ambigiouse term, and could be refering to the throttle slide or a throttle butterfly or the entire 'governing' mechanism of the engine, as the bit you wiggle to make the engine change speed or load!

Nope; cant find much of much relevence in the book, either... its such a 'simple' part though, ought to be pretty self explanatory.

You have the handlebar, round that is a bit of plastic waste pipe, that can trwist on the bar, with a grip covering it.

end of the 'throttle tube' has a top hat flange with a groove around the rim, and a hole drilled cross wise through it.

Cable 'nipple' goes into cross hole, cable lines into groove, then when you twist the throttle tube, winds cable round the flange, pulls throttle slides up at the other end.

Its a simple 'pulley' arrangement.

Flange sits in groove in twist grip bracket; bit bolted to handlebars in two halves, to stop the twist-grip tube sliding off the end of the handlebar.

And there is normally a lump on the flange and a lump in the housing, so that the twist grip can only rotate maybe 3/4 of a turn, so you cant wind it the wrong way and have a backwards working throttle! Or try twisting it round more than a full turn and stretching the cable.

TheSmiler wrote:
One of the problems with the throttle is similar to this (no control) apart from with the choke out ... that is when the high revs happens.


Watched vid, and it looks like he's effed up fitrting the new cable. Few possibilities:

First he has fitted throttle slide bsackwards, so its not dropped down in the carb and is effectively jammed open, the cable doing bog all.

Alternatively he could have got the cable attached the wrong way on the 'pawl' (technical name for this kind of pulley!)

Or he has fitted the twist-grip tube incorrectly in the twist-grip bracket, and its jammed or wedged between stops.

Or he has routed the cable incorrectly, and its jammed internally either due to too tight a bend or an actual 'kink' crusking the outer cable nippin the inner.

In your case...... going to be the twist grip end.

Have you loosed the two screws under the twist-grip bracket, and slid it outboard on the bars, to see if its simply been basked up onto 'thick' bit of bar causing it to jam?

Have you loosed screws and slid twist grip assembly off the bar, to see if it is 'free'?

Have you opened bracket up, and inspected the twist-grip tube?

Have you inspected cable for any 'witness' of it being 'kinked''?

Those are first checks.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 09 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
So the lesson learned is?
Pay attension to EVERY-FUCKING-THING, becouse where you aren't paying attension lurks the 'little thing' that will jump up and bite you in the bum!


We have all done some stupid things in our biking lives and learned from them. Lay off, old man. No need to shoot the guy down for it.....twice.

Id just take the top off the throttle where the cable goes in, check for any damage and that the tube turns freely.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 09 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you evoboy

I've taken of the throttle already to see what the problem was and a part of the plastic throttle tube has snapped off about half the length of the tube with the end of the tube being rigged. Apart from that the cables all look fine.

So hopefully the overall solution is replacing that tube,just got to find one now that will fit..
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