is controlled counter steering essential for kneedown?

[RooRoo]

I found yesterday thatwith controlled counter steering I can get a lot closer to the ground, is it pretty much essential?

[G]

It is essential for turning a bike. Just a lot of people don't realise they do it.

The only time I really force counter steering is in chicanes or on very fast corners where you really need to battle against physics.

[RooRoo]

is it worth specifically trying to counter steer further to get lower and turn quicker, or is that too risky?

[Demonic69]

It is worth practicing, will help improve your general riding and could save your ass if you take a corner a bit too quick.
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[Bod]

I have to admit I purposefully used counter steering on my way to work, wow what a difference. I felt more confident on my turns and felt much more relaxed.

[Sparks!]

Just don't counter steer /too/ much, okay?
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[Bod]

very true, i enjoyed my ride though was good.

[Sparks!]

Might lose the front end if you counter steer too much




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[skyline]

it needs to be done a bit more on bigger bikes though in my opinion thought. as on my 50 i could chuck the bike around anywhere and it would just go no questions asked, using the same force on a 400 does absolutely nothing and until someone told me you have to put a bit more effort in with a bigger bike i would still be taking corners and stupidly slow speeds and just been a general danger on the roads as id never think the bike could move quick enough to avoid problems :/

[Bod]

true, I ride a RSV Mille and it seems to be happy with what I am trying to do with it.

[Fallen Angel]

Right, who's coming up to Scotland to teach me all this stuff that I really need to know?
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[Tyral]

What exactly is counter steering?

[RooRoo]

when you turn the wheel right to turn left, im not sure but im guessing it works somehow due to the tilt of bike wheels, whereas car wheels are flat, bikes are curved and so you can lean them...not sure totally..

[Mr C]

do you people never listen

this has been explained soooooooooooooooo many times
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[fuzz]

It's all to do with gyroscopic forces - ever go to the science museum and they have you hold a bicycle wheel. If you spin the wheel and try to turn it to the left, you will feel it try to push down your right arm.

Same principle....
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[Kris]

I found it handy to use hard countersteering in the early days of GYKD as it also alerted me to how far a bike can lean. I've since used this method in several "Oh SHIT " moments and forced the bike round when I really shouldn't have got away with it.


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[mrchips]

It's good if you want a tighter line through a corner thus faster and lower.

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