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iMark
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Helmet Size issues, Any "better" advice (Newbie)? Reply with quote

Story so far.

When I first got my bike, I borrowed my aunts helmet, which was a nice tight fit, but I heard that was bad, So I went to the local bike shop and bought a helmet which was a Small size at 540mm and a nice snug fit.

Any ways, Not long after wearing it its become really loose, like a bobble head and I now have to wear a beanie hat in my helmet to lessen the wobble.

If I buy a helmet online that is "X Small" at 540mm and it's not a good fit I'm kind of stuck with the same situation again, I'm looking to get a "Flip Up" helmet when I got some spare cash but the shop near me doesn't have any and to be honest they're known for there high prices, I'm in Lockerbie, Dumfries if that's any help.

I've measured my head and its between 550-560mm, I don't know if its the shape of my head, or the helmet but here's a few pictures.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmet Size issues, Any "better" advice (Newbi Reply with quote

iMark wrote:
I don't know if its the shape of my head.


And there is the answer to your question. ( and pictures Razz ) You may be lucky and it fits perfectly or you may not. That's the gamble I'm afraid if you can't get to a shop and try a few on.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Helmet Size issues, Any "better" advice (Newbi Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
( and pictures Razz )

I thought it was a good idea to include the pictures haha Smile

And as for shops yeah, I don't know any apart from the 2 in Dumfries Neutral and they're both the same owner's apparently and like I said, they're known for there bad prices Sad

Kind of clueless about most things still, like where shit is and that, specially being on L plates I can't do a lot of exploring comfortably any ways, No motorway and back roads without a sat nav..
Not for me.... Yet Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Lids need to fit well, and stay fitting well. A cheap lid might "wear" to a lose fit fairly rapidly.

However, different makes of lid tend to be for slightly different shape heads, even before you take account of the difference in actual size between 2 lids of the same size from 2 different makers.

Afraid all you can really do (and what you should do) is go and try a load on to find one that fits you properly.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:38 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember, just because you've tried them on in the shop it doesn't mean you need to buy from there.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Size doesn't matter in lids.
It is more to do with the shape of your bonce.

You have a really weird shaped noggin so it will be difficult to get a true fit without a load of gaffa tape here and there.

Razz

Really you need to try several hats to get the one you like.

A good fit means your scalp should move with the hat as you rock it back and forth with your head in it.
You should just be able to bite the inside of your cheeks too.

Also worth choosing one with a big wide hole in it for looking out of.
This is important for a first helmet as you need to be able to see traffic etc.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Lids need to fit well, and stay fitting well. A cheap lid might "wear" to a lose fit fairly rapidly.


I only had £80 to spend and I got it for £60, the other helmets were £100+ although it was reduced from £120 RRP or something.

Kickstart wrote:
However, different makes of lid tend to be for slightly different shape heads, even before you take account of the difference in actual size between 2 lids of the same size from 2 different makers.


I've read about the sizes between brands before

Kickstart wrote:
Afraid all you can really do (and what you should do) is go and try a load on to find one that fits you properly.

Mr.Everready wrote:
Remember, just because you've tried them on in the shop it doesn't mean you need to buy from there.


I tried on the few they had in XS and S sizes and that was the best fitting one for the price I could afford at the time, and it's the only place I know Sad I'm not familiar with the other towns around me, like Carlisle, or how to get there to be honest, since I can't go on the motorway Razz

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Size doesn't matter in lids.
It is more to do with the shape of your bonce.

You have a really weird shaped noggin so it will be difficult to get a true fit without a load of gaffa tape here and there.

Razz

Really you need to try several hats to get the one you like.

A good fit means your scalp should move with the hat as you rock it back and forth with your head in it.
You should just be able to bite the inside of your cheeks too.

Also worth choosing one with a big wide hole in it for looking out of.
This is important for a first helmet as you need to be able to see traffic etc.


Why thanks Very Happy hahaha Weird shaped head :O
I never thought of the gaffer tape, The helmet has removable lining, so I could pad it out under the lining... the cheeks are nice and snug in it though so it's just the shell shape and my head that's the issue it seems? Smile



If I purchase a helmet from somewhere, keep the box and receipt, go for a ride and if it comes loose are they likely to take it back the same day/next day because of it coming loose?
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They shouldn't come lose anything like that quickly. If it fitted when you bought it then I would be dubious about then just taking it back shortly afterwards when to them it is pretty much scrap.

If you mail order it then there are the distance selling rules to rely on. Which is also a bit of an issue as you might land up with a lid that someone has already sent back with no idea of whether it has been bashed.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:55 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you buy on-line you may have better options for exchange. Normally in shops they tell you to 'get the fuck off'.
Though better to ask.

It is unusual for a shop to sell you a hat that doesn't fit properly.
They are supposed to be trained by the OEM (or the marketing agents for the products).
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what kind of things should I look for when actually buying a helmet from the shop?

The one I got was a snug fit.. so if it's just snug, its gonna be loose later right?

I've not had a helmet that fits properly, so I don't know what it is going to feel like

How do you know if a helmet is too tight?
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Too tight is painful.

Bit of a problem to define snug. Snug like a duvet or snug like a corset?

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:05 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Too tight is painful.

Bit of a problem to define snug. Snug like a duvet or snug like a corset?

All the best

Keith


Painful, Got'cha Smile

Snug like, I could feel the lining inside everywhere, but it wasn't gripping like the other helmet I borrowed off my aunt, which now with the other answers seems it was the "right" size for me, so I should find out what kind of helmet it was Smile
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's coming up to 'show' time, so get yourself to one of the bike shows if you can and try on every possible model of lid you can find in your size - should give you an idea which offer the best comfort.

As above, cheapers ones tend to be more likely to lose the fit quickly, while I've found Shoei's, for instance, tend to keep their shape really well.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
It's coming up to 'show' time, so get yourself to one of the bike shows if you can and try on every possible model of lid you can find in your size - should give you an idea which offer the best comfort.

As above, cheapers ones tend to be more likely to lose the fit quickly, while I've found Shoei's, for instance, tend to keep their shape really well.


I'm still on a pretty small budget till I find a new job :\
Saving up what little I get to get my license first, to save me more money in the long run from insurance etc Smile

But thanks, I'll read around the forum more about meets when I have money for spending Smile
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally go for second hand helmets myself.
Some claim they might have been damaged already - I can't find a reasonable way a helmet would have been damaged which wouldn't leave a mark on the outside.

I'd go for a well fitting second hand helmet over a not so good fitting new helmet any day - and have done and have crashed multiple times in said helmets and been fine.
The only time I've had a bad concussion was from a not-perfect fitting new helmet because I couldn't afford the better-fitting make I wanted.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I generally go for second hand helmets myself.
Some claim they might have been damaged already - I can't find a reasonable way a helmet would have been damaged which wouldn't leave a mark on the outside.


Never really thought of looking into that, Wouldn't know where to look to be honest, apart from Ebay or Gumtree.

Mines has some chips out of the shell on it without crashing hehe Smile
Hit a lamp post with it by accident when walking around town hah and a concrete washing "T", forgetting it wasn't that tall Smile
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay is where I normally get mine.
iMark wrote:

Hit a lamp post with it by accident when walking around town hah and a concrete washing "T", forgetting it wasn't that tall Smile

Some will tell you your brains will fall out if you go over 5mph now Wink.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if its just me, but I forget how big it is when I'm holding it walking around town, so I miss judge some smaller gaps and clip it on a wall or something.

I've yet to hit someone with it though, accidentally or on purpose... Pedestrians drive me nuts walking in town, there is always a minimum of 5 people who annoy you when your in town, Cus theres always atleast 1 idiot who walks to slow somewhere you cant get past, 1 idiot who basically walks into you, and 1 group of girls standing around a blind corner who you basically walk into Razz
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
Remember, just because you've tried them on in the shop it doesn't mean you need to buy from there.


This Rolling Eyes

also...

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or

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or

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PostPosted: 18:05 - 16 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

crackfinder wrote:


Mr. Green Thumbs Up

Watching them now =D the first one is good so far =D

crackfinder wrote:


Ahh I see why... Only problem is english people might not understand her, due to the lack of concentration.. Smile
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