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fatpies
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Fuel tank. Reply with quote

Saw a guy at the news agent/corner shop thing get off a BMW thing lift up his tank and put something in it. Or in the storage area where the tank normally is.

I thought how odd you know to have the fuel tank under the seat.

But then I thought hold on why exactly is the fuel tank between your crotch anyway? Why was it never under the seat as standard 100 or so years ago?

Is it tradition that we have the fuel tank between the legs? Like how narrow gauge railway became standard because thats what we always used.? Question

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PostPosted: 22:26 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect it's because early motorbikes were just cycles with an engine in; the space under the saddle was taken up by engine and gubbins, plus they used gravity feed fuelling, so you put the tank high up on the crossbar.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Fair few bikes have had petrol tanks under the seat. Some have had the petrol tank in the belly pan. Few late 1980s Gileras had a helmet storage space where the conventional petrol tank would be.

Not sure why having it between the riders legs got to be so standard, except that it saves any requirement for a fuel pump. Can just use a gravity feed.

As to railways, 4'8.5" is standard gauge and has been for many years. And was legislated to be in the 19th century (hence the GWR moved from broad gauge to standard gauge). 4'8.5" is pretty standard throughout the world.

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PostPosted: 22:34 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:

As to railways, 4'8.5" is standard gauge and has been for many years. And was legislated to be in the 19th century (hence the GWR moved from broad gauge to standard gauge). 4'8.5" is pretty standard throughout the world.

All the best

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Narrow guage as in compared to Brunell's wide guage which even though I have absolutely no reason to, I think is probably better because Brunell made it.
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Broad gauge, as compared to standard gauge Wink . Broad gauge came along later and was used in a small minority of UK. Narrow gauge is usually taken as being smaller than 4'8.5" standard gauge.

Technically broad gauge possibly was better, but would also be a lot more expensive to build (need bigger tunnels and embankments, etc). And major problems trans shipping from all the standard gauge railways.

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PostPosted: 00:02 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

vmax has a petrol tank under the seat, it's a right PITA to fill up when we are on a long run and carrying luggage cos he has to move it all then put it back every time.

Still, it gives me plenty of time to stretch my legs and/or go to the loo!
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

my current bike, vmax, and my last bike, a paneuropean have got underseat tanks.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weight distribution and practicality as much as anything else I would say.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

More of the "conventional" tanks actually come a little bit under the seat anyway, since larger and larger airboxes are taking up space in the bit you lean over.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dansrockin wrote:
....my last bike, a paneuropean have got underseat tanks.

My boss at work has a PanEuropean too. It makes sense that a relatively large bike has the fuel tank set lower in the frame, to lower the centre of gravity and improve low speed handling. Thumbs Up
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