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PostPosted: 21:06 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: rough price or idea on fitting disc brakes Reply with quote

bike has needed them for a while now and as it will be parked up for the majority of the next few months i should get it sorted really.

what sort of price would you expect to pay to have front discs fitted ? is it a long job or fairly easy, if it is fairly easy i dont mind doing it myself. although the bikes going in the garage to be derestricted anyway so could get done at the same time.

and could anyone recommend me some decent brake pads as well please, probably will be EBC brake discs or another pair of the OEM ones

cheers, leigh
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly one of the easiest jobs. It is harder to tighten the chain dude.

Just whip the front wheel off and take the bolts out and off your disc comes. Some people replace the disc bolts and it is good practice with something under such tension. I do it with brake and sprocket bolts. And when you put the new disc on and do the bolts, add a bit of loctite and do them in a star shape.

This prevents warping as doing it in a circular fashion can. May be an idea to take them off in a star shape to as you never know when you need a brake disc.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah that sounds alright then, yeah ill tighten it up like that. reason for them getting changed is they are warped Sad not to bad tbh but its annoying

any recommendations on brake pads ?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not from me unfortunately. I just use bare minimum for the 50 but a lot of people rate Goldfren pads and thats what I use.

But with the warping, I highly doubt that is due to tightening as you would have noticed it sooner. Could be a buckled wheel, hard braking, a loose bolt.

I'm not that experienced though so its best to wait for someone else to come along before trusting me haha Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

theyve been warped since i bought the bike tbh. 15 year old bike and it still had the original discs on ( only done 8 thousand miles Very Happy ) so i imagine it is just those have warped. recon its worth getting someone to check the wheel etc before buying some?

thanks for your help dude
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

HD wrote:
Honestly one of the easiest jobs. It is harder to tighten the chain dude.

Just whip the front wheel off and take the bolts out and off your disc comes. Some people replace the disc bolts and it is good practice with something under such tension. I do it with brake and sprocket bolts. And when you put the new disc on and do the bolts, add a bit of loctite and do them in a star shape.

This prevents warping as doing it in a circular fashion can. May be an idea to take them off in a star shape to as you never know when you need a brake disc.


Star shape as in one bolt, then choose the opposite bolt hole, then the one next to it then the one opposite that one?
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i think thats what he means mate, so it tightens even and not one side first
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could just be that its a bit thin now and heavy braking has sent it off then. Still, how much did you pay for it?

And this is the sort of thing I mean:
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i get what you meant mate. £2500 Smile 2 owners, last one barely used it cus he had like 6 bikes in his garage. choices lol
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bastard. Bet its minters though.

If I get rich one day though, I want one just as a day bike. Love the whining cams and the v4 racket...

Too small for a day to day bike for me though Sad
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah its spot on to be honest mate, gotta love the whine Smile

im pretty short so its alright for me, only on really long stints i get back ache.

i take it the RC45 is a lot bigger bike ? ive never seen one Sad bank balance will never reach one neither haha
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok cheers mate, do i just need a paddock stand ? how exactly do front paddock stands hold the bike ? i presumed on the front axle but wont that mean i cant remove the front wheel?

might be being stupid here, but i have never had a padock stand so dont really know how it works to be honest
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright mate thanks a lot, ill see if i can find a good deal on a pair of stands or something
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Front-and-Rear-Motorbike-Paddock-Stand-Set-Pair-Stands-/280756921354?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item415e6aa40a#ht_1998wt_1185

I've got a similar rear paddock stand for mine. What I did though is have someone with me and whip out the front wheel as I lift the weight up then rest the forks on some cardboard or something but the exhausts may hit the floor and such like.

Also, has the rvf got a single swinger?

Do they do abba stands for your bike?
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 19 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah its a single swing arm, whats the difference with an abba stand?
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 20 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abba stand lifts the bike at the swing arm spindle. It means that the bike can pivot on it from roughly the middle of the bike. So if you want the front lifted you just use a jack or you can even just put some weight on the tail to lift the front and put some wooden blocks under the sump. Great bit of kit, I've used mine for a lot of maintenance tasks and it's a lot more useful than the pair of paddocks I have.
It is however a bit expensive. But I've found it very much worth it.

If you're getting new discs, I would recommend you clean and maybe rebuild your calipers. There's a chance that your calipers, being as old as they are, and having long gaps between uses, could have seized slightly. This can warp the discs. No point throwing £200+ at a pair of new discs only for them to warp again because you neglected to buy a £20 rebuild kit.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 20 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats a good point i didnt give a thought to the calipers seizing up or anything. would it be worth doing that first incase thats all the issue is ?
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PostPosted: 02:09 - 20 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
thats a good point i didnt give a thought to the calipers seizing up or anything. would it be worth doing that first incase thats all the issue is ?


If it's pulsing through the lever, and juddery braking its warped disks, he's saying it could be because the callipers have siezed, getting a lot of heat into the disks and warping them - replace the disks, and rebuild the callipers while you're at it.
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 20 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, forgot about that. Have you done that before clancy?

If not, its not too bad either.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 20 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

no ive never done that before either, what exactly does it require ?

thanks for the help guys
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 20 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
no ive never done that before either, what exactly does it require ?

thanks for the help guys


The easy non splitting method is this.

Find some wood.

Remove your calipers.

Remove the brake pads (should just be a pin and some shims take a photo)

Then put the wood where the brake pads and disc ought to be. Pump the brake. The pistons should extend out towards the wood. the trick is to get the pistons extruding out but not to 'pop'

You can then clean the body of the piston carefully with brake cleaner and brake fluid (wear eye protection) then repeat for the other brake caliper. I'm not sure if the NC35 has opposed brakes.


If you pump too hard you'll get a piston pop, which means you break the sealed system to the atmopshere. Which means you lose pressure even if you push the piston back in. Which means a rebuild.

A rebuild is the same as above but you use bits of wood to pump the pistons each far enough out to pull them out by with your thumbs or a tool.

The system is now open to the air. You get a screw driver and carefull lever out the brake piston seals and dust seals. You should use new ones but they are £7 each and you can reuse them. Clean them wipe them down with bog roll the cylinders as well (note as this point there will be old brake fluid everywhere). Clean t he crud off the pistons with something plastic, check for burrs if there are burrs you can carefully remove them. But else buy new pistons £20 each! Then put the seals back in, then the dust seal then push all the pistons bar one back in. Then fill this with brake fluid and carefully push it back in.

Bleed the brakes and reassemble, lube the slider pin of the brake pad and bingo you're done.

With opposing pistons it is a bit more complicated because you have to split the caliper and you have to ensure you've pumped the piston out far enough on the opposing side. If you haven't there is nothing without extra tools to get them out properly unless you have a compressor or moon clips or the funky £100 brake piston remove kit from Laser.
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