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| BIKEVIDDER wrote: | If a thief wants a bike they will take it.
In a shed covered by items will mean items thrown out of the shed,
Chained to another bike, the other bikes wheel will also be taken.
Many simple steps will stop an opportunist thief, disc lock so it can't be simply pushed away
If no thief comes a note on the seat saying please don't steal will work & the cheapest method.
A huge chain 14mm or 16mm through the frame & an excellent lock that costs money with a correctly fitted good ground anchor is about as good as anyone can do.
There is a huge difference between no thief visits to an opportunist & a determined thief. |
a thief will give up if they cant get it quickly, they not going to stick around trying to move stuff, break locks and drag it out. they target bikes they can take within 10minutes. ____________________ owned bikes: DR50, Thumpsta 110 , Honda CR85, Speedfight 100, Yamaha XT125X, Honda CRF450, Honda Hornet '07
current bikes: KTM EXC525 AKA the wheelie machine
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Odd owns a shotgun lol.
Odd, I am going to apply for my license very soon! ____________________ Hit the G spot.  |
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I've had the misfortune to have several bikes stolen so I have a good idea what's needed to prevent theft.
It's all well & good to think your bikes safe, it is if no one will try & take it.
Live in a very low level crime area with no security = little prospect of theft.
Live in a very high level crime area with good security = your bike wont last long.
It's not unknown for thieves to visit & check out security without disturbing things, probably several times.
One day you will forget to put the lock on, perhaps after a ride home in heavy rain & you'll do it later or the thief will research how to overcome your particular lock or chain.
There are many ways to get through locks & chains easily bought down the local B&Q or similar.
A £5000 bike is worth a few quids worth of tools & a £25 or £150 lock and chain to play with.
A few years ago locally a bike went missing, a long complicated story & all I'll say was it was found eventually, not long after the owners door was kicked down & masked men held a sawn off to the head of the owner & car keys were demanded, the car was quickly found damaged & burnt out if I remember correctly.
A sort of keep your gob shut or else message.
Yes your bike is safe & no one will nick it.
Then one day your bike will be the target of a thief that will take it.
Saying no thief will take my bike is translated into saying no thief wants my bike enough to over come my security.
A bit like saying a high viz jacket will stop cars pulling out in front of me translated into a car didn't even look before pulling out & nearly killing me.
My prefered locks & chains, anchors are the sort you need a noisy long time with industrial strength tools to beat.
Some locks were rubbished in the bike press because they had a round key & could be opened with a biro pen.
The best person to ask advice from about security is a thief.
They think in a totally different way to a present or future theft victim ____________________ GROWING OLD DISGRACFULLY |
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My security is a nicer bike that's stored out in the open at the end of the road with not so much as a "please don't steal me" note on it. It's been there for 5 years. When it gets nicked I'll start worrying about my collection of sub £500 trinkets.
I think it's mostly about the area. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| 0ddball wrote: | One might say if you had a good idea of what's needed to prevent theft you wouldn't have had a few bikes stolen. |
From the beginning of my bike owning years.
I started off with no security & the bike parked on the road,
I then moved & again parked on the road with no security or occasionally in the garage.
I had one bike stolen from outside a friends house one night with no security so I started to park in the garage at night.
up to that first theft the word bike thief was unheard of in my area.
Then another bike was taken from the garage.
I then took an interest in security.
Before then I had no reason to.
I moved & the word bike thief became common, i'd moved into a very high crime rate area.
It's all so easy to get caught out.
It's all so easy to take the pi$$ when you haven't been a victim of crime as well.
Thing is a bike is so simple to steal and I've said it before if a thief isn't interested then your bike is safe not matter what you do or don't do.
opportunist thieves will walk passed any simple security, all they wont to do is have quick simple fun with virtually no risk & your pride & joy will end up burnt out, in the canal or smashed, whatever the thief wants to do with you pride & joy he will, It's his toy, obtained with no cost or risk.
Then there's the thief after the value of your bike, if he can make a few hundred pounds from you few thousand pound bike or even thousands if he's clever then cheap tools will be obtained & it's worth buying locks & chains to destroy to find the method.
Future victims never know a thief has given the bike a once over, nothing has been disturbed but they will know what security is being used.
Time is on a thiefs side & if they want your bike they will get it.
If thieves don't know the bike is there, if a thief isn't in your area or your security is strong enough to withstand sustained noisy attack then your bike is safe.
I notice all the wise remark comments come from those that haven't lost a bike.
If you had your first comment would be the only good thief is a dead thief & you'd happily cut there hands off with a blunt butter knife.
I'll happily recommend a bike owner worried about theft should get the best security he can afford & over time increase security. Buy second hand to save money etc etc etc.
That advice comes from experience, painful & expensive experience.
At the moment whats even more worrying is metal theft, It's not just bike thieves you have to guard against now.
Won't take much to remove numbers & chop a bike up & alloy is worth a lot so a bike is valuable as scrap.
Of course it'll never happen to you, it never will.
That's what I thought.
It'll never happen to me again, that's what I thought.
I'd like to see them get this one, they did.
Metal thieves have a nice little trick going on, costs about £25 to get a return of a few hundred pound.
Not heard it happening to bikes here but I bet something similar does go on in other areas.
Any body know what it is.
More common in high risk areas.
Thieves do travel about into low crime rate areas.
Soft touch ignorant simple folk are easy victims because they believe it won't happen to them. ____________________ GROWING OLD DISGRACFULLY |
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just wondering how fast my collection of monitor lizards would consume a mans legs .............
i like my uncles security as he living a very bad part of the family home city (oldsbury birmingham)
gets home (high rise council flats) off the bike push it through the doors in to the elevator up to second floor in to his flat then parked up in the kitchen
this might sound extreme but everyone he is friends with in the area has had their ride stolen by the local scum in the last few years
my own way of being safe is to make sure all the local lads know me . i know a lot of em are thieveing cnts so i stay on their good side bought a few of them a pint when they were having a particularly bad day as a result last time some one tried to nick my bike (125 last december) i went the local pub and asked about it .those few drinks bought payed off as not too long later one of the lads walked over and made his son (14 FFs) apologise for attempting to steal my property i have not had a single issue since then ,but i know of two bandits an sv650 and a tl 1000 all stolen in the last year from my estate
if i had the money through i would buy all the deterrents i could on the basis that 5 cheap chains is more hassle than a single almax  ____________________ 2014 Aprillia dorsoduro 750 factory. |
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