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PostPosted: 21:21 - 03 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waterproof and cheap is about all thats required beyond the basics. We don't do surveys unless they pay us or do something for us and getting you a degree just doesn't cut it.

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PostPosted: 21:26 - 03 Dec 2011    Post subject: Re: Satellite navigation system for motorbikes Reply with quote

SiberiusX wrote:
Good evening everyone, I'm conducting a survey on the use of satellite navigation systems for motorbikes and would like to receive your views on the topic.
It's a very short survey. Here is the link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HGG2LPW

Thank you


Would have helped if you had added this...

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We are in the process of developing the following product: a head-up navigation device for motorbikes. It consists of a flexible and transparent display that can be applied on the visor of a conventional helmet and a mobile app for smartphones


to your post as, Sickpup said... This time of year we get plagued by students asking us to do their work for them......

BTW, Question 1 should be multiple choice as depending on when, where, how. i can use any of them Thumbs Up

Personally all I need to voice which I get now via phone when needed. All other info is already where I need it.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 03 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ iooi
Thank you for the suggestion, I've edited to make it clear. As for the following comment, this is meant to understand behaviours and opinions not to "do their work for them" Smile
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 03 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't need Satnav.
I ride where the feeling takes me.
I follow my front wheel.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 03 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused. Is this market-research for an actual product which will be coming on sale or is this just another "proposed" product by a Uni student, which will never see the light of day?

I ask because I can't see a product like this being feasible to create with our current technology and the prices consumers are willing to pay. And because the image looks like its just been quickly put together in Photoshop. Tell me if I'm wrong, but a flexible sticky back transparent screen actually does not exist yet? The best I could find were units which had a glass screen and quite a large base unit: https://www.planarembedded.com/electroluminescent-display/transparent-display/
Again, could be wrong, but don't all cars with this kind of technology use a projection device? That must be for a reason.

Wouldn't this screen also require a unit to be placed inside of the helmet? I.E. with a microchip to create the display and the wireless radio which you're saying it connects to the phone by? And if that's the case, wouldn't there have to be some sort of ribbon cable running from my screen in to the unit itself? Because if that was the case then it would be very intrusive (you couldn't really open your visor.) On the other hand you could be using nano technology, but that would be extremely pricey.

Plus you've got to think about power consumption. The battery on my HTC Wildfire struggles to take me far using just GPS and Roaming Data, if I was connecting wirelessly to a device too (like using Bluetooth) then surely I'd be running out of battery much quicker, meaning I'd have to install some sort of charger into my bike and plug my phone in every time I wanted to go somewhere.

I don't mean to try and point flaws, but these are my main areas of concern because I can't think how they could be done.

This post isn't all just rant though. On the flip side I do love the product and actually contemplated trying to build something like this myself once (but couldn't find the right technology to use for the screen.)

If this product does ever come about, for around 50-100£, then you'd probably get a purchase from me. As for now, learning the route before I leave it just fine, and headphones for GPS if I'm lazy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 03 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleurgh, it's got "do my homework" thin-film-screened all over it.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to conduct some market research for a product development project for Uni. So yes it's a concept product but I don't see why this should result in it not receiving attention as an actual product proposition.
I can confirm you that this product can be fully produced with the current technology right now. The display technology is OLED (organic light-emitting diode) and is currently employed in many models of mobile phones. It's a type of display that can be made extremely thin, transparent, flexible and consume a fraction of the power of conventional LCD. It will obviously require a control unit which can be very small, it will basically contain a bluetooth receiver to communicate with the phone in your pocket and some basic circuitry for mapping pixels. No demanding processing power is required as all computations are performed by the smartphone and streamed to the control unit. This said, a thickness of 5-10mm is realistic and this would seat comfortably in the clearance between the face and the base of the visor.
To overcome the battery concern we are planning to provide, as an optional, a dedicated little main unit with small lcd display which which would substitute the phone. You would preload via usb the UK map and it could be fixed on the handlebar.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you need reading glasses would be yoosless.
Unless a thinfilm display can come in prescription? Smile
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wearing reading glasses won't affect vision or comfort.
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SiberiusX wrote:
Wearing reading glasses won't affect vision or comfort.


It would be a heluva task to see other road users and the road whilst wearing reading glasses though.
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PostPosted: 04:03 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's feasible to make it, just make it. The markers on Engineering degrees do not care about market research!!!

If you are on some "product design" degree then feasibility is irrelevant as you wouldn't have the skills to make it anyway.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SiberiusX wrote:
I can confirm you that this product can be fully produced with the current technology right now.


It won't be though, so you're just wasting our time. It's market research, do it the professional way: just make up some studies that confirm what you've already decided to (pretend to) make, and then go to lunch.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SiberiusX wrote:
I'm trying to conduct some market research for a product development project for Uni. So yes it's a concept product but I don't see why this should result in it not receiving attention as an actual product proposition..


Oh dear....

You pic show the screen across nearly half the visor Shocked

I was expecting a small screen up in the top corner no more than say 1 inch long x 1/2 inch high. So its out of your line of sight.

5 to 10 m/m thick.... Too big.
Needs to be removable for when visors are changed. yet needs to be well fixed to visor to it does not fall off at any point.
Better idea. Just produce a projector to place pic's onto any visor. ( I want 75% royalties for this, if it hits the market) Mr. Green

Go ahead and build a model that works to prove the theory, then do your market research to find the price point you need to aim at.

As a guess anything over £50 is out of mass market area.

Clearly you have not researched the internet as this has already been done, and has already been asked before this year by another student Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to burst your bubble but many companies already have this planned and have implemented it into cars. The market isn't that lucrative too many problems with the whole idea.

Thought of this when I was in school this is when it first got announced and for that reason I'm out.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't need one.

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PostPosted: 12:58 - 04 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are you remunerating for my time ?


Oh your not???


Do please fuck off.
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