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Ingah
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PostPosted: 07:50 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Snow tyre spray? Reply with quote

Having just had to phone into work saying i can't make it after only a pathetic amount of snow (i live on a steep hill and just use bikes), i'm eager to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Because my commute is long and mostly motorway (nearly 30 miles each way), i don't think studded tyres/equivalents are the answer, but i have heard of those sprays for the tyres to "increase grip by 300%". Sounds great, but has anyone got one they recommend as i can't imagine they're all as good as they claim, if they work at all (?)
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of it, got a link to what you're looking at?

Can you get snow chains for bikes? Embarassed
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
Never heard of it, got a link to what you're looking at?

Can you get snow chains for bikes? Embarassed

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220897318377 - one of the more expensive versions, i've also seen similar sprays on there for as cheap as a fiver, as well as one that came with a separate degreaser and told me to be suspicious of sprays that didn't.

Argh.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

300% more grip on ice still isn't enough to stop you barrelling it down a hilll, it's still not a lot and assumes the product actually works, which it wont.


In other words, you will waste money, have ill founded confidence and still crash.


Bus/lifts/park at the bottom of the hill are the only real options if you live up a steep snowy hill.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Re: Snow tyre spray? Reply with quote

Gets some ok reviews on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B002WBEPRO

Did you try making with the bike? If it's only really thing, generally I find the tyre will cut down to the tarmac to some degree, presuming there isn't ice, as above.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't faph about with snow on a two wheeler.
You are cruising for danger.

We don't get too many sno-bound days so studded tyres are not really practical.

Our snow days are more nuisance than anything else.

I am looking at Snow Socks for one of our cars. Amazon £31.74 (Robbin' Bastarts, Halfrauds are asking for £69 for the same product.)
Or it looks damned similar.

I looked at the spray last year but considered the cost was not reasonable. The spray will be rubbed off within a few hundred yards.
For 'Emergency use' the spray is possibly OK but I think the Snow Socks, for the cost of two tins of spray, will last a lot longer, providing of course you don't spin donuts in the Asda Car park with them on.

Before I fitted studs to my tyres I would look at chains. Though you would need to be able to fit/remove/stow etc. which makes them an encumbrance. This would leave your tyres un-harmed.

But then before fitting any of the three I would buy a Daily Mail a Latte (one sugar) and jump on a bus or a train. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your journey is mostly snowy, studs are fine. They are fine if not too, actually; but a bit of a waste. If you can get a spare set of wheels it's definitely worth considering having a set with studs to swap over - even if you do it in the morning before work, you'll still probably be there before all the cars stuck in traffic Smile.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
If your journey is mostly snowy, studs are fine. They are fine if not too, actually; but a bit of a waste. If you can get a spare set of wheels it's definitely worth considering having a set with studs to swap over - even if you do it in the morning before work, you'll still probably be there before all the cars stuck in traffic Smile.


I fell off three times last time I ventured out in the effin' snow.
It was pride more than anything else that suffered.
I was riding a Ewan McGregor world eating bike too.
Absolute Pig in a Bag.
On two wheels it was fine but trying to hoi my leg over and hold the bstrd. up on pack ice every time the bitch 'threw me off' was interesting.
One trip on packed snow cost an engine side cover spray job, serious lunch box/panier damage and the knee oot ma new troosers.
So unless it's a Winter Hack, my bike stays locked up out of harm's way now.
The other consideration is if your on a bike and some Ice Hockey Forward in a car/bus/truck/white van decides to tackle you then you are as polish is.
At least in a car you have crumple zone. Cool
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

It was pride more than anything else that suffered.
I was riding a Ewan McGregor world eating bike too.

There's your problem; I'd be embarrassed to be seen on one of them too! Very Happy (I used a tuned/downgeared zx9 and a GSXR1000 and was fine Wink.)

To be fair, when I got the studs for the KTM it made a big difference - meant I was back to filtering past traffic when it was moving, rather than going with the flow apart from when it was very slow/stationary.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Re: Snow tyre spray? Reply with quote

G wrote:
Gets some ok reviews on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B002WBEPRO

Did you try making with the bike? If it's only really thing, generally I find the tyre will cut down to the tarmac to some degree, presuming there isn't ice, as above.

No, because i could barely walk up the hill, literally too slippy because my boots compressed the snow just the right amount for maximum slipperyness. I felt the bike was likely to do the same.

The 20 miles plus of (no doubt gritted) motorway mean that studded tyres would be perhaps a bad idea, although i'm aware of the advantage of having them pre-mounted to a spare wheel - i'd do that sort of thing on the CG though, because i think it's more ice-friendly. Probably cost me quite alot though, once i've added in wheels, tyres, studs, and punctures.

Public transport to where i'm currently working would probably take around 3 hours of my time as well as 3 hours of my pay (2 buses, 1 train). No chance.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been wondering if these would work.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JEKO-UNIVERSAL-SNOW-CHAINS-BELTS-AND-MUD-BELTS-/270687152563?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item3f063629b3#ht_1987wt_905

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PostPosted: 12:45 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not put some grit/something down the night before to allow you to get up it? Even if you put it on the pavement or something, anything so that when you need to ride up it in the morning it's made a little bit easier.

I'm unsure what you could use/what would be the best, hell, even if you have to buy a snow shovel and shovel a wide line up/down the hill so you can ride that prevention is almost always better than cure.

Maybe investigate that a little? Or you could invest in a cheaper bike which you could put more snow-adequate tyres on.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Why not put some grit/something down the night before to allow you to get up it? Even if you put it on the pavement or something, anything so that when you need to ride up it in the morning it's made a little bit easier.

I'm unsure what you could use/what would be the best, hell, even if you have to buy a snow shovel and shovel a wide line up/down the hill so you can ride that prevention is almost always better than cure.

Maybe investigate that a little? Or you could invest in a cheaper bike which you could put more snow-adequate tyres on.


Funny you should say this - seems like a neighbour's had the same thought and now i've got a nicely gritted hill Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.amazon?cg125/snowplough.com

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PostPosted: 17:19 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there a junction or sharp corner at the bottom of this hill? If not i'd be tempted to kamikaze freewheel all the way down.

You say you own a cg so dont really know what the fuss is about to be honest, just use that
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought, but what if you were to use this spray and then go over a diesel spill?
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
www.amazon?cg125/snowplough.com

It's one of these babies you want.


Looks like a photoshop to me Confused
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ordered a tin of the spray last year after the wife got stuck in a car park with both kids in the car for the third time. Typically the shit weather cleared before I had a chance to try it on the car, but I sprayed some on my shoes and it made a big difference on icy footpaths.

I like the fact that it should help get you out of trouble, but you dont need to stop to take it off, like snow socks.

She's got a pair of winter tyres on the front this year (big improvement on icy roads) so it can languish in my boot until I get a chance to try it in earnest.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
Walloper wrote:
www.amazon?cg125/snowplough.com

It's one of these babies you want.


Looks like a photoshop to me Confused


Almost right.
That took 4-1/2 hrs on MS Paint to 'create'. It is just a draft though.

Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anywhere down the hill you can park? Bribe someone with a garage, perhaps?
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 14 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow spray...
https://www.stochasticgeometry.ie/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/snakeoil.jpg
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 15 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hunting a forum for info for my cage and inadvertently came across the gem.

Cagers???

Honestly, Who T. F. gives out the bloody 'Permits to Operate' those Machines?
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 15 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
I was hunting a forum for info for my cage and inadvertently came across the gem.

Cagers???

Honestly, Who T. F. gives out the bloody 'Permits to Operate' those Machines?

Go in to kitchen and a chef would probably baulk at the way most of handle a sharp knife. For most of us it's just a basic tool we have no real interest in understanding how and why it works as we want.

So it's no surprise the owner of a 1-series (a shopping cart if ever one was seen) haven't paid attention to which wheels are driven.
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