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| richie.... |
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 richie.... Renault 5 Driver
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 Posted: 11:27 - 24 Dec 2011 Post subject: chinese bikes, yes really.... |
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looking at selling my scooter and putting a few quid toward a little 125 for fun and mebe going through my test.
im hoping to get a honda cg125 or other little learner, the thing is, none are coming up, well with in a distance im happy to travel. ill have about £600 but all the bikes are 200/250 miles which after diesel and dinners, isnt worth it.
so how about a chinese bike?
yes there cheap but surely the build quality must have come on? also, more and more dealers are building up better knowledge and spares for this growing market. theres on cg125 rep on ebay for £535 crated up (build and register at home.
im genuinly thinking about it. surely if its looked after, it will look after me?
I travel mebe 20 miles a day to work, then the girlfriends 2/3 times a week, im a commuter but do enjoy the blast along a county lane as part of my ride to work, so wouldnt mind doing it for fun, but none of my mates own bikes now...
I know im going to get shot down here but hey.....
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| Daytona Paul |
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| TheSmiler |
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What region of the country are you, someone on here might be selling a 125cc geared bike. ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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| goto10 |
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I bought a brand new chinese CG125 copy in 2006 - PDI'd/registered/taxed and included a helmet and Oxford chain/padlock, all for £450. (was from 'the internet bike shop' but I think they've since folded)
Did me ok for 5 years, I sold it (in running order) earlier this year at a very slight loss. Sure, I didn't do heavy mileage but they're not *that* bad, keep the oil fresh and the chain lubed, maintenance is key - also keep the chrome covered in ACF because the plating is about 1 micron thick and it goes rusty the moment you go through a puddle
I always squirted WD40 in key areas too (ignition etc)
For the cash I think they serve a purpose and will certainly do what the OP wants from it. ____________________ '12 NC700S & '12 CB600F Hornet [Stolen by some dickless twat] Suzuki GT500 shed |
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| Rogerborg |
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Make and model? Also, what's the total cost, including delivery and the £71 first registration and VED? Are you sure that it comes with a Euro 3 type approval certificate, customs import documents, and a declaration of newness?
View it as a bike shaped pile of parts, maintain it religiously, don't spend a penny more on it than you have to, and it might not completely screw you over financially. Parts aren't a problem any more, although there are doubtless still plenty of garages who won't touch "that foreign rubbish" (doubtless while welding an broken ER6 exhaust back together).
If you're going to go that route - and have a decent toolkit and don't mind getting your hands mucky - then I'd suggest trying to find a used example of the Lexmoto / Haotian Arrow or Vixen or the Huoniao HN125-8. Get a Lexmoto for preference, insurance is easier. I'd stay away from anything "themed", plastic fantastics (more money, harder maintenance) or offroad-stylees (too many reports of bad build quality).
But really, Japanese branded is going to hold its value better and not get the dog set on you if you take it to the local bike shop. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| Stinger wrote: | The Lexmoto Arrow which is the cheapest they sell is £850, but it's not on the DSA approved list of bikes for A2, so that might be an issue for you. |
Good spot, it's listed as an A1. They likely just haven't got around to slipping the DSA a brown envelope, it's not going to be any slower than the identically-engined Vixen, which is listed as A2.
Eh, just tell them it's a Street if you're asked, I doubt many examiners are that bothered. I wasn't asked what my de-badged HN125-8 was.
| Stinger wrote: | As long as you buy a Chinese bike from a dealer, you should be ok. |
TBH I wouldn't expect the warranty on a Chinese-branded bike to be worth the paper it's injet-printed on. Parts availability is fine though, and there's not really that much to go wrong on the basic commuters. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Like Binge i too have a few Pit Bikes all of which are chinese.
Despite being made from butter they are all still going strong and they all get abused massively. i suppose like alot of things, it depends who was on the production line the day it was built and what they got up to the night before . And of course Previous owners ____________________ Chase my Witch up, Catch my Snitch up.
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i have had one a baimo RSR that i paid £350 for and sold to a friend for what i paid for it . In 7000 miles includeing a 700+ mile holiday around wales it never gave any issues and thats rideing with a friend on a CBF 125 and another on a CG 125 also it kept up with them no problems
a few mates have got better ones in recent times for instance i had to replace the inlet manifod on mine as it hold the weight of the carb and is made of rubber on the coldest night last year it cracked but the newer ones i have seen all have metal inlet manifolds now as well as a few other annoying issues
they ARE getting better just look for one of the established companys
people forget that a lot of "good" bikes are in fact "chinese rubbish" built and manufactured in china or taiwan then badged up and sold at a premium the only difference is the quality control .
lexan are one of the ones thats seen the most improvement and if i was to need a 125 i would go for one of them ...ones to avoid IMO are SINNIS and the like its easy to find out why  ____________________ 2014 Aprillia dorsoduro 750 factory. |
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i had one of the first chinese scooters to come over here
i bought it for 600 quid on the road
admitadly the panels were a bit flimsy and ill fitting but the engine never let me down
well not excatly i changed to an open air filter and rode in the rain so filled my carb with water
i spent a fair while at this years bike show looking at the lexmoto stand and have to say that these scoots have really changed in quality
in fack they seemed better put together then the bmw scoot at the same show  ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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| Polarbear wrote: | Everyone knows YBR's are built in china, but they are not 'chinese' bikes. They are Japanese bikes built to Yamaha's standards in China. |
OK, let's assume that the major market for today's 125s isn't China and the Far East, and that the majority of purchasers of these bikes earn more than a bowl of rice a day and that they're budgeted and engineered for that market. Let's assume that they're still being made as loss-leaders to get rich Westerners into biking, and loyal to a particular brand so that they buy a big expensive bike later.
Let's further assume that even though they're built in China by Chinese people on Chinese jigs with Chinese parts made of Chinese materials in a factory that churns out millions of bikes per year, that the handful of on site Japanese quality control supermen are monitoring each and every Tianjian YBR 125 that rolls out of the factory and saying "Iie! Rat bike is go to Honoulable Engrish person! Must be velly best quarity!"
'Tis the season for miracles after all.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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