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PEDEGG
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 28 Dec 2011    Post subject: Got a street triple. Kept on the street – how to secure it? Reply with quote

So, I passed my mod 2 on the 20th, bought a street triple on the 22nd and been loving it ever since! (a few pics in THIS THREAD will do some better ones when I have some time)

Anyway, its kept on the street. I have no choice....... so how do I secure it?

1) big f#*k off chain around the frame and around a lamppost/tree? What brand? Any specific recommendations? A few problems with this, i) I think I’ll need at least a 2m chain, probably 2.5-3m given the distance the bike will be from the kerb and then the distance of the trees/lampposts are from the edge of the kerb is around 1 foot. Ive been parking at a 45 degree angle as there’s quite a camber and it’s on a hill. ii) Relies on me being able to park next to one. Come 6pm almost every inch of parking space is taken. Pavement isn’t that wide and wheelie bins are out 24/7 so leaving it on the path will probably result in it being knocked.

2) chain the bike to a storm drain? They are few and far between, and will mean the chain is on the ground so not ideal. Relies on me being able to park next to one.

3) any other suggestions????

The bike has a datatool 4 alarm/immobiliser. Add a disk lock? Any specific recommendations for these? Add a cover?

Not too sure the council will be overjoyed at me filling a bin with concrete and leaving in on the street or putting in a ground anchor.

At the moment ive got a crappy disk lock just for something visual on it but sleeping in the front room, crow bar in hand isn’t doing me any good.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rent out a council garage, there's no way I'd leave a bike on the street, if it doesn't get knicked you can bet local kids will mess about with it. Don't think I'd able to sleep at night and my bike is half the cost of yours Razz

If you have to then get a decent rain cover, massive chain, disc locks etc. but at the end of the day if some one wants it they'll get it, they'd grind the chain off and throw the bike in the back of a van and you'd never see it again.
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to leave it on the street, the make damn sure you have:

+ Some fat-off chain wrapped around one of the wheels.

+ An alarmed disc lock is always a plus, even if you have an wired-in alarm, the more noise your bike makes if it gets stolen, the better.

+ A cover, sometime it can help prevent it getting stolen just because theives cannot be bothered to faff around with the cover etc.

+ If possible, leave it under a street light... if the area is lit up, it might deter theives through fear of being seen...

Always worth a try, right? Thumbs UpSmile
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax chains are one of the best brands you can go for. A series III or IV around your frame and then something solid should keep it safe. Just be aware little road sign posts can be torn from the ground easily by two blokes. Get a good padlock to accompany your chain.

Get an alarm/immobiliser. Put a sticker stating that by the ignition. Some data tag or tracker stickers wouldn't hurt either.

Alarmed disk lock on the front.

Rain cover. Out of sight out of mind.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeDougieDouglas wrote:

+ Some fat-off chain wrapped around one of the wheels.



Don't wrap it round the wheel. Unbolt wheel, steal bike. A bit of a faff yes, but heard of happening. Always to through the frame, swingarm or similar when locking your bike.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
JoeDougieDouglas wrote:

+ Some fat-off chain wrapped around one of the wheels.



Don't wrap it round the wheel. Unbolt wheel, steal bike. A bit of a faff yes, but heard of happening. Always to through the frame, swingarm or similar when locking your bike.


Good point there mate. I suppose a serious theif would carry the tools to get a wheel off etc... as you said, around the back wheel and swing arm may be a better idea. Smile
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's no room to get a chunky chain through the frame take a look at the anti-pinch pin from Pragmasis.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. ive been out this morning with a tape measure and as i thought a 2.5m chain wont be long enough to go from the bike then round a lamp post/tree if on the street. so i have 2 options.......

1) forget the Almax and go for one of THESE 4m protector chains. how do these compare to Almax? i assume not all 19mm chains are created equally?

2) there is a place at the end of the street where i could park it on the pavement attached to a lamp post, there is no house on that side of the street, therefore no wheelie bins. only thing is the local postie attaches his buggy thing to it and it needs to be moved to the other side of the post as the "free" side has a bloody huge pot hole and is just perfect for a humiliating 0mph spill. ive put a note on my door asking him to give me a knock when he comes round.

so, protectors any good? are they well enough known compared to an Almax to deter a thief? will the 19mm thickness be enough of a deterrent in its self without the brand?

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PostPosted: 10:35 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almax chains are said to be some of the strongest chains you can get, and if I recall, the series 3/4 can withstand bolt-croppers. I have a thick-ish Oxford chain, and even that wouldn't stand the crop. I'd advise getting an Almax if you value your bike.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

PEDEGG wrote:

1) forget the Almax and go for one of THESE 4m protector chains. how do these compare to Almax? i assume not all 19mm chains are created equally?


Thanks


At that price, I'd hope its better than the Almax Laughing Nah, but it looks like a good chain, its obviously going to deter theives.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeDougieDouglas wrote:
PEDEGG wrote:

1) forget the Almax and go for one of THESE 4m protector chains. how do these compare to Almax? i assume not all 19mm chains are created equally?


Thanks


At that price, I'd hope its better than the Almax Laughing Nah, but it looks like a good chain, its obviously going to deter theives.


Decent chain cutter (no chain can stand up to some of the ones you can buy cheap and carry in a long coat), white van, couple of lads!!!

Hide if you can, with a bike cover... Don't let the lock sit against something solid!

Best bet - garage or yard, not kidding!!
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Pragmasis is as good as the Almax. They will withstand bolt coppers like the Almax, other than that they won't stop the professional thief but nor will an Almax.

Oxford and the rest are useless.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Re: Got a street triple. Kept on the street – how to secure Reply with quote

PEDEGG wrote:
Anyway, its kept on the street. I have no choice.......


Why?
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Re: Got a street triple. Kept on the street – how to secure Reply with quote

Gothtec wrote:


Why?


i have no drive, no garage, did a search and was nothing within a reasonable distance to rent. unless im going to leave it at my sister 250 miles away, its on the street unfortunately.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoke to the postie, he's never even used the buggy, he helped me pick it up and move it round. So i'll push the button on an Almax and just hope the local traffic wardens are as understanding otherwise im going to have a very expensive, very heavy necklace.

Further security

DISC LOCKS - oxford? xena? N.E. other?

COVER - are the £30 ones really any better than a poundshop ones? The ones ive seen seem to have pretty bad reviews. any suggestions would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a bike like that and no garage or driveway I'd be seriously considering getting the bike into the house.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

PEDEGG wrote:
spoke to the postie, he's never even used the buggy, he helped me pick it up and move it round. So i'll push the button on an Almax and just hope the local traffic wardens are as understanding otherwise im going to have a very expensive, very heavy necklace.

Further security

DISC LOCKS - oxford? xena? N.E. other?

COVER - are the £30 ones really any better than a poundshop ones? The ones ive seen seem to have pretty bad reviews. any suggestions would be appreciated.


I saw a video about a lock that fits to the back caliper. Quite expensive, but it looks really good. I can't link you as I'm at work and can't get into my youtube account, but I'll have a look later.

Search "RoadcraftNottingham" It's one of his last 4/5 videos. More secure than a little Xena disc lock.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
With a bike like that and no garage or driveway I'd be seriously considering getting the bike into the house.


there are 2 sets of 3 steps and the kerb to my front door. i live on the first floor of a masionette and the bike wouldnt fit in the porch. so again, unfortunate, but not possible.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you hear the alarm from your house? If not, I'd recommend a pager add-on so that you can.

Have you got a cover on the bike? It a) hides what kind of bike it is and b) is an added faff for the thief (removing it should set the alarm off)

I kept my CBR on street in central London and it wasn't as huge a deal as some would think. Since it was my sole means of transport I was generally at home when it was and I didn't use particularly awesome locks or anything. My main defence was a long cable wrapped around a lampost that let me lock my chain to the cable, and the cover to disguise the fact that it was a nice bike.

The one theft attempt that happened in 2 years was the one night I didn't chain it up, so was clearly someone keeping an eye on it, and they ran away when lifting the cover triggered the alarm.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Can you hear the alarm from your house? If not, I'd recommend a pager add-on so that you can.

Have you got a cover on the bike? It a) hides what kind of bike it is and b) is an added faff for the thief (removing it should set the alarm off)

I kept my CBR on street in central London and it wasn't as huge a deal as some would think. Since it was my sole means of transport I was generally at home when it was and I didn't use particularly awesome locks or anything. My main defence was a long cable wrapped around a lampost that let me lock my chain to the cable, and the cover to disguise the fact that it was a nice bike.

The one theft attempt that happened in 2 years was the one night I didn't chain it up, so was clearly someone keeping an eye on it, and they ran away when lifting the cover triggered the alarm.
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i dont have a cover, if you have any recommendations for one that isnt going to be ripped to shreds by a gentle breeze i would appreciate it. when my flatmate gets up ill do a little testing with the alarm, get him to set it off and see if i can hear it.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

PEDEGG wrote:
if you have any recommendations for one that isnt going to be ripped to shreds by a gentle breeze i would appreciate it.


I had some Oxford cheapie and just taped it up if it got ripped. Made it look even scabbier, which was good.

I wouldn't buy an expensive cover, I'd buy cheap and replace when it gets too shagged and grotty. Remember, dogs will probably piss on it.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theft insurance

R n G bike Cover

Bedroom vent or window slightly open

Zena 18 mm alarmed disklock, flashing led one

Bike alram / imobiliser

30 quid chain and lock for show round wheel.

Thats all you can do really, will be enough:)
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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chain around the frame and around a lamppost/tree?


When I was staying in Brighton I wraped a chain around the wheel and a lamp post. It was cut and taken away. Unsure if it was the council or not, so be carefull Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:


I saw a video about a lock that fits to the back caliper. Quite expensive, but it looks really good. I can't link you as I'm at work and can't get into my youtube account, but I'll have a look later.

Search "RoadcraftNottingham" It's one of his last 4/5 videos. More secure than a little Xena disc lock.


thanks, took a look, but they dont make one for the street triple
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 29 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they want it they will take it... put on some locks and that but at the end of the day make sure it is insured (Obvs TPFT at least) and declared on the street...

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