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 Posted: 14:02 - 30 Dec 2011 Post subject: How do you kick start a bike |
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Hello all
No1 daughter has finally got her provisional licence and takes her CBT on 2nd Jan.
She's bought a really nice CG125 but as its an older model it has a kick start. 95% of the time it starts up on 1st kick and runs really nice, however sometimes it kicks back and feels like it will take your leg off.
I've never owned a kick-start bike before and I suspect that its something we're doing wrong - So, how do you kick start a bike ?
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kickback on a cg125? try a bsa b50  ____________________ GOOD GAME BODYGUARD: https://i.imgur.com/8WePGgf.jpg
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That is not my actual hip, wrong side and mine has no screws! I now use This rather than kick A British 500 single at 11-1 compression hurts! ____________________ Bikers make great organ donors, get 115 on your licence today. |
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Kick it over gently until it is just past top dead centre (so use the kickstart to turn the engine until you feel compression then take it a tiny smidgin further). Now turn the ignition on, allow the kickstart to return to the top of its arc and give it one firm kick all the way down.
Should start. If it doesn't, take it back to just past TDC again and try again.
A kick back happens when the piston hasn't made it all the way to the top of its stroke and a spark ignites the fuel in sending it back the way it came. Kicking from just over TDC and using the full swing of the starter means it has to do a full revolution in the correct direction before it'll fire. Very unlikely to come back at you that way.
It'll kick back if you poke at it or make a half-arsed attempt. Do not be afraid of it, they can smell fear and will attack.
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I dont understand why kick starting a bike is some kinda mystery, maybe its cos I grew up in India where bikes have only recently started to get electric starts.
I was back there this summer and rented out a beat up Royal Enfield for a couple of days, no electric start - it also had no front brakes, the fuel lock didn't work, no brake lights, no dials, so you can guess the state of the bike - but it was a fairly simple matter of sticking it in neutral, whacking the kick start down, giving it a little bit of gas and there you are.
No one taught it to me, I didn't have to look online to see how to do it, it just seemed like the obvious way to do it.
Not saying this to big myself up, I just dont understand how its something you can get confused about. |
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My Father taught me how to kick start bikes and he's been doing it for decades, what he taught me works so I use it. .
He taught me to put the ball of my foot on the lever, and with kickstarts there is a little bit of movement with no resistance until the resistance starts, you need to take that up so you push down lightly until the resistance is there.
Then, in one big motion, you heave yourself up and kick down in an explosive way, combining your kick and the movement of your body so you have more power, that way your leg doesn't tire out as quick and they are easier to start.
My Father used to have a Husqvarna 500 and on regular occasions that would kick back and push him, one legged, up into the garage roof where he'd smack his head. ! They can hurt, complete shinbreakers haha.
However, the smaller the capacity the easier it is to kickstart generally due to the decreased resistance, unless you have something with a crazy compression ratio. !
Hope that helps. ! ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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This “man” has boobs and kicks like a girl.
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A cg shouldn't present any problems even if the engine's hot, but if she's struggling then as said above she should ease it over compression then bring the kicksarter back up to the top and give it a hearty bootfull. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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pull out kickstart. Kick down kickstart. Bike is now started.
There is no need to piss about with gently kicking it or whatever. It's a CG125.
My experience is countlessly kickstarting my CG and RXS. |
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I was back there this summer and rented out a beat up Royal Enfield for a couple of days, no electric start - it also had no front brakes, the fuel lock didn't work, no brake lights, no dials, so you can guess the state of the bike - but it was a fairly simple matter of sticking it in neutral, whacking the kick start down, giving it a little bit of gas and there you are.
No one taught it to me, I didn't have to look online to see how to do it, it just seemed like the obvious way to do it.
Not saying this to big myself up, I just dont understand how its something you can get confused about. |
That Enfield was broken. The compression must have been through the floor. Even with a 350 in reasonably good nick, you shouldn't be able to take it over compression without either putting your full weight on the kickstart (as in both feet off the ground) or pulling in the decompressor lever.
Enfields are famously tricky to start as standard unless you have the engine positioned in the "sweet spot" just past TDC when the ammeter dips back. Sweet spot = starts with leisurely swing over. No sweet spot = kick, kick, kick, kick, BANG-fuck!, kick, kick, kick, kick, BANG-fuck!, kick, kick, kick, chug-chug-chug-chug. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Having the bike in a good state of tune helps massively with kick starting.
I recently starting riding my CB250RSA again, for winter. It's a kick start only 250cc single with a valve lifter, so not big power and no worry about a nasty kickback.
It was being an absolute bastard to start though, and is very fussy about choke settings on a cold engine. Has to be just right to keep running, so I tend to get it going and then push the choke in and keeps the revs up for the first couple of miles.
I found out why it was so bad when I serviced it. The engine was taken out of a crashed one and fitted over the summer, I changed the oil when I fitted it but it was clearly quite dirty inside, seeing as the oil was black and knackered after 500 miles. The air filter was also filthy, it hadn't done many miles since the last clean but has been sitting in a garage with assorted wildlife passing through for 8 months. Being a foam type you wash it in petrol then oil with engine oil. Plug benefitted from a clean up as well.
Now starts easily, has a lot more power, and reaches a steady tickover too.
Totally aside from the starting, I aligned the wheels using the plank of wood method. Found out the swingarm marks are a joke, and are out by half a notch. Handles a lot better now that the front wheel isn't offset from the rear by a full inch. |
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