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PostPosted: 09:22 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Treatments, while making water easier to displace off a visor.... Will not stop it sitting on there, if there is no wind to remove it. Mine seems to need around 40 mph before it kicks in ans clears the visor.
Turning you head to one side often helps a lot to clear water.

So if you have a screen, then you may need to reasses angle etc.

As to being blinded.....

You have to train yourself to LOOK AWAY from the light source.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is for the water, it's worth its weight in gold.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Helmet-Visor-Wiper-Clear-Vee-Wipe-Medium-NEW-/280786763662?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Helmets&hash=item416031ff8e#ht_500wt_1413

as for glare, try some anti glare glasses.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

a newer visor helps, you shouldn't put rain x on a visor as its for glass not plastic/lexan visors and it degrades the material, I usually go for a light tint visor in the winter, I know they're not supposed to be used in the dark but its my choice
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just look away. You're not a rabbit, you can resist reflexes.

Whenever people complain about being dazzled by oncoming traffic I always find them staring right at the bright lights.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahadumball wrote:
So I'm off the road for a few weeks :/ had a fight with a set of stairs and they won, torn ligaments and bruised ankle for me, at least I get to lay about in bed all day Smile

going to miss riding but at least I get some quality time in the garage with the bros to get it re-sprayed.

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Why are you worrying about glare, you have torn ligaments so can't ride and you are painting your bike? Or have you miraculously healed and painted your bike in under a week? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always amazed when I had teh shop how people would pay silly money for an expensive hat, but not pay a few quid for a new visor now and then.

As said, they are plastic, they scratch and degrade. You'd me amazed how just normal riding dust etches them and then dirt gets engrained in the 'pores' of the etching.

I have a wonderful little divice;
https://www.weewilly.com/images/wee_willy_in_hand_best_1wvv.jpg
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I was given as a sample when I had the shop, been my most faithful riding buddy ever since. Fill it with washing-up-liquid & water, and use it to keep the visor clean, before you ride. Every now and again, remove visor and wash properly in a sink; avoid 'scrubbing' the visor with your glove or anything, when riding, and when you clean it, do so gently, and dont 'polish', you are as likely to scratch it as make it better. Wash, wave excess of water off, then wipe dry with soft cloth/towel.

If the visor is clean, water will more easily 'bead' and run off if you just tip your head.

Got a lot of visor preps to evaluate when I had the shop; I still have some-where a box of 1/4 empty bottles, that were not that great; The Rain-X preps are amongst them. There was a

Crystal-Glo or some such name, that was a panacia polish; an american valeting stuff; supposed to clean and shine, 'custom' paintwork, without any abrasive, where most wax polishes have 'some' abrasive content... had a clear acrylic polymer in it that was supposed to put on the shine like wax; Worked Curiousely well on visors! I had about a dozen bottles of the stuff; because it was not a wonderful 'polish' for paintwork, and three times the price of anything else! So we never sold it!

Other than that; though; only other 'thing' I have ever rated as 'useful' was a Fog-City Shield.

Was given first one for evaluation; think that Pheonix, the Aria distributor put it on the market eventually; popped it on a brand new Bob-Heath visor, and there it stayed and worked brilliantly for nearly ten years; that one visor kept specifically for the really crap weather.

So, conclusion is common sense and old fasioned hygene.

/ Get a new visor; and replace them regularly, if you do a lot of bad weather riding.

/ Keep your visor clean, with GENTLE cleaning. Washin-Up-Liquid, water and soft cloth. Wee-Willy for when you are out and about.

/ Dont 'fixate' on the lights when confronted by them; keep your eyes on the road and look past. TRAIN your BRAIN to focus where you are riding, NOT on 'distractions', whether bright lights or anything else!

/ Make sure your OWN headlamps are clean, and properly adjusted!

Last one? Well, bright lights ahead, if you are chucking light into the road you are riding, the contrast between what oncoming traffic is lighting and what you are lighting is less; it will be easier for you to look at what you need to. And like your visor, your headlamp is getting as wet and dirty as it is.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
they are plastic, they scratch and degrade. You'd me amazed how just normal riding dust etches them and then dirt gets engrained in the 'pores' of the etching.


I'd be amazed how badly people treat their visors. Mine is three years old with negligible damage. It usually get cleaned twice a day when commuting - when I arrive, and when I get home. Damp tissue i.e. not sopping wet), tiny drop of WUL and gentle horizontal sweeps across the visor is enough to remove everything bar the ickiest of bug-guts baked on during an all day rideout (cover visor with a damp cloth overnight and the above procedure will even shift them).

The trick is to a) clean it regularly and not let crap build up, b) don't scrub at it like you're t-cutting it back and c) use clean kitchen or bog roll and not cloths or sponge - that photo of the "cleaning" bottle made me wince - no wonder you ruin your visors so quickly. Doh!
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
that photo of the "cleaning" bottle made me wince - no wonder you ruin your visors so quickly. Doh!
I dont!
That's just the cleaning bottle; comes with a duster to wipe.
Sponge bit is quite soft, and very good for shifting stubborn bug-guts!
And it's all 'compromise'.
Yes, you can, if you look after them very carefully, make a visor last a long time; but for the sake of £10/£15, is it worth it?
Bit of cleaning care, between times, and a new one every year; or if racking up, all weather high miles, one at the start of summer, one the start of winter; possibly with a fog-city or pin-lock.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Yes, you can, if you look after them very carefully, make a visor last a long time; but for the sake of £10/£15, is it worth it?
Bit of cleaning care, between times, and a new one every year; or if racking up, all weather high miles, one at the start of summer, one the start of winter; possibly with a fog-city or pin-lock.


My visors cost £30. According to your reckoning, I've saved £180 by cleaning regularly (not necessarily "very carefully", just not half-arsed scrubbing away with whatever is at hand) so yes, it is worth it.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
they are plastic, they scratch and degrade. You'd me amazed how just normal riding dust etches them and then dirt gets engrained in the 'pores' of the etching.


I'd be amazed how badly people treat their visors. Mine is three years old with negligible damage. It usually get cleaned twice a day when commuting - when I arrive, and when I get home. Damp tissue i.e. not sopping wet), tiny drop of WUL and gentle horizontal sweeps across the visor is enough to remove everything bar the ickiest of bug-guts baked on during an all day rideout (cover visor with a damp cloth overnight and the above procedure will even shift them).

The trick is to a) clean it regularly and not let crap build up, b) don't scrub at it like you're t-cutting it back and c) use clean kitchen or bog roll and not cloths or sponge - that photo of the "cleaning" bottle made me wince - no wonder you ruin your visors so quickly. Doh!


really? sounds a bit like hard work to me Laughing

I've had the same helmet and visor which i have used daily for the past 5 years. During the day it sits outside on a building site getting covered in all sorts of crap and i have often just wiped it with whatever clothy type thing i can find, which is usually my sleeve on my work jumper which is also covered in dust and crap Laughing

I can still see out of it and havn't crashed because of it yet, it is pretty scratched but not enough to cause bother.

The only bad part about the visor is i have one of those adhesive pinlock type things fitted, but the glue from the top has come unstuck so when it rains the space between the insert and the visor slowly fills up with water and makes you feel like your in an aquarium Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
really? sounds a bit like hard work to me Laughing


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PostPosted: 17:56 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the visor clean, replaced if scratched & look towards the nearside kerb.
When I clean my visor I cover it with wet tissue paper, leave it for a short while for the crud to soften, gently wipe the visor with the wet tissue paper slowly rolling it up so fresh clean bits of paper is used to mop up the crud.
I then wipe clean with visor cleaning stuff bought in the shops while the visor is still damp.
I also clean the inside when the outside is done.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:34 - 04 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get your eye tested too.
Sometimes glare is a side effect of an eye problem.
Maybe wearing prescription glasses at night would help.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bringing this thread up again as this morning was horrible with the rain and constant filtering.

When going between traffic the brake lights cause a lot of glare with the rain droplets on my visor.

As I've got pinlock I saw a yellow insert, are these used for anti-glare?

Also not sure what to do with the water droplets staying on the visor, I keep having to wipe with my glove to see.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

For beading water off the visor, I'm currently using Nikwax with good effect:

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=view&n=1567&p=172338&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Helmet%C2%A0Cleaning%C2%A0Products
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

goto10 wrote:

Just don't get it on any plastic, I used to keep a bottle of that under my seat, then one day it leaked, I still haven't managed to get all the waxey residue of my rear hugger
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefr0 wrote:
Bringing this thread up again as this morning was horrible with the rain and constant filtering.

When going between traffic the brake lights cause a lot of glare with the rain droplets on my visor.

As I've got pinlock I saw a yellow insert, are these used for anti-glare?

Also not sure what to do with the water droplets staying on the visor, I keep having to wipe with my glove to see.


Colour filter don't do much to beat glare.

All you can do is ensure your visor is clean and most importantly that it is in GOOD condition.
Visors only last a couple of weeks of winter riding before they get all crazed with micro-scratches. These are caused by wiping shit off the visor as you ply the road.
The visor may look good to the naked eye but under the extremes of weather, winter and the shit they put on the roads the clarity is reduced.
I have fitted £60 visors to helmets only to have the same sort of problem a couple of months later.
They say scratch resistant but this is maybe just relative. Resistant to scratching by what?? Kitten fur??

I keep a bit of Micro-Fibre stuffed in the left handle bar for wiping.
It too soaks up that grit too though.

Hien Gericke sell Rainoff Rain-Ex or something. This does help but I find it needs re-applied every couple of days or after a long trip through the rain 200+ miles. This involves removal of visor for proper cleaning and re-application of the product. Hassle High. But it does do as it says on the tin/bottle. I wish it was more permanent though.
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resistant to scratching by what?? Kitten fur??

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