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PostPosted: 13:46 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Tyre valve gave up mid corner... crashed Reply with quote

...and I've had first and hopefully last crash of 2012 Rolling Eyes

Was riding around since about 9 this morning, heading back from broadstairs through deal and dover.

Came to this road...

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Was leaning over to go round heading down the "hill."

As I got about half way I felt the back wheel wobble and squirm.
Shit my pants and closed the throttle to try and stand the bike up but it just fell to the floor Sad

Following car driver stopped to help me up and had a compressor to re pump my tyre up. Was totally flat. Had a look over the tyre, no damage to tyre at all. When pumping the valve sounded dodgy but they gave me a valve cap to get home.

I have really screwed my back up and I'm off to hospital as I can hardly move, managed to get home after 40 miles of motorway in agony.

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PostPosted: 13:54 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arses, hope you and the bike arent too bad!
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sucks mate, hope the back gets better! Weird suggestion but a good Osteopath can help quite a bit, at least once you're over the initial pain of it. Hope it's nothing too serious.

Is the bike ok or a bit messy?
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn dude, that's my nightmare scenario... crashing in the middle of a corner. Hope you're okay though.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

GWS soon paddy Thumbs Up BCF is missing you already Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's strange that it let you pump it back up, I've had a valve go on my last bike, luckily it just let the air out slowly, until you touched it then it rushed out. I used selotape around it to get it home then when i got it to the bike shop for a new valve he prodded it and it flew off!

Get yourself a new valve, sorry to hear mate.
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damm Paddy, hope your back isn't seriously injured Sad
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Tyre valve gave up mid corner... Reply with quote

Did it have a valve cap on at all?
Having seen someone buy a bike that it turned out didn't have a valve in at all (just a valve cap) working ok bar a slow leak, I'm convinced of their worth now and do mostly try and keep them on.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you're ok mate.

I had three front-tyre deflations on my 'busa inside of a couple of weeks, turned out it was a weak schrader valve spring, and cetrifugal forces were causing the valve to open at speed just from the weight of the schrader insert. I went to Watling tyres to get new valves, and I told them my story then they showed me a bulletin from BMW suggesting that metal valve caps should be fitted to any of their bikes if they were likely to be ridden over 100mph routinely.

I bought two new valves and two caps. Took the insides out of the new valves and swapped them for the ones from my bike. Whilst they were out I tested them against each other and the spring weight was miles stronger on the new ones. I could push them together top-to-top and one spring would compress fully before the other would even move.

I reckon this is what's happened to you Paddy.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that mate, really and truly!

I hope it's your last one to mate. Thumbs Up

Hope the bike didn't fair to badly but at least you were able to ride it home and that's a freakin bonus coming off on a bend like that.

GWS matey Wink
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the GWS's Thumbs Up

Bike, not a state at all, I was its cushion, the exhaust has a slight dent/scrape on the Carbon Can logo, but thats about it. Burnt hole in trousers from engine casing, but I'd rather than than be stranded miles away.

Currently have about 3 types of pills to calm the pain and hopefully settle the muscles... I think I've damaged a part of my spine though, its unbearable to touch and any neck movement is a bit sore, so off up the hospital as soon as a car arrives.

The valve has been replaced and tyre re inflated by a nice guy in a Micra who stopped to help me up. Was off on my way home after about 15 minutes of calm down and checking bike/pumping tyre.
Got the guys number and let him know I got home ok, going to ask for address and send him something to say thanks for stopping and being he-man lifting the bike off me.

A bit annoyed at myself really, I know I couldn't have had much impact on a dodgy valve, I had checked my tyre pressures, was down by 1psi, but took that as its pretty much on spec, i'm not dragging the compressor out for 1psi.
If I had done, I may have noticed the valve was loose/leaking but we all have hindsight.
Could have also possibly done something to save dropping the bike, never really been in that situation and unsure how else I could have handled it...but its really annoyed me and I just need to get checked and have some rest, maybe i'll calm down later Thumbs Up

Oh G, it had a valve cap, but I think it may have had a crack...so its just pissed out of the tyre quickly... quick enough for me to have no time to do anything Thumbs Down

May have to unattend the all you can eat now though Laughing Need to buy me some new shoes and trousers Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 15:50 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valves are cheap & always over looked untill they pack or play up.
Sorry to hear it caused a crash.
Definitely pays to check pressures when you fill up at the garage or other regular prompt, even if it's only a basic is it squidgy test.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just plain bad luck dude. I hope your back sorts itself out.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Ouch. Would go along with Pete in the suggestion of the dodgy valve. Also check the valve stem itself (I have had these split through on 3~4 occasions, although fortunately only once when moving).

I have had a valve go down once at speed. Front tyre on the Bimota. Only noticed as the speed dropped down to about 100, at which point the plenty of space to slow for the end of the runway suddenly got worryingly short.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:43 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if the tyre briefly unseated from the rim and let much air out in a rush, after slowly losing pressure for a while.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use metal caps on my bikes. They have a rubber gasket inside to prevent this sort of shit happening.

Did your ABS not cut in and save your bacon though?

Or you don't have ABS?

Shocked

Get well soon and I hope it only costs a fiver to fix the bike up.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike will cost nothing to sort. I'll hopefully be riding to work tomorrow.

Back is bruised... but I'll be fine Thumbs Up

Have no ABS, that and I hardly had any braking time. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Bike will cost nothing to sort. I'll hopefully be riding to work tomorrow.

Back is bruised... but I'll be fine Thumbs Up

Have no ABS, that and I hardly had any braking time. Thumbs Down


Oh well a glass of Radox and Soak in a large Single Malt tonight then.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dad has gone over the bike.

Tyre absolutely perfect but a little bald Rolling Eyes Typical parent.
Valve itself looks fine, no cracks or tears... he is getting the whole valve swapped out tomorrow morning when tyre place opens.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 08 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Dad has gone over the bike.

Tyre absolutely perfect but a little bald Rolling Eyes Typical parent.


Funny that. My Dad wasn't bald..... Shocked
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hope ur up and running soon mate Thumbs Up

how fast was you going ?
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

graham123 wrote:
hope ur up and running soon mate Thumbs Up

how fast was you going ?


About 60-70. No speedo so was about 6500rpm in 6th Neutral
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... not riding that bike to work Rolling Eyes Fuck knows how I got it home.
Handles like a sack of spuds, something is wrong somewhere.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 09 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheese-and-rice, better check your bike seat for "blowthrough". Pale

Great to hear that you're limping-wounded, but FFS get yourself down to A&E, you could be aggravating a spinal injury.

I'm off to eBay to get some metal valve caps.
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