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 Posted: 17:14 - 08 Jan 2012 Post subject: Gonna Start up hopefully |
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I posted before about riding, but the gf didn't agree with me.
However now things have changed as she's doing her own thing, so time to make mine happen!
I'm 18 now, gotta send off for a provisional then take a CBT.
I wanna save as much as I can and still be happy with what I have, I was wondering If I could go from no riding experience to taking just tests and having no riding experience at 18 onto a restricted Gsx600.
I know alot of people are against restricting sports bikes due to them not having any power etc. It's the bike of my dream and the only bike i've ever had my eye on since I was a kid. I'd rather get a restricted one to save money rather than buying another bike later on and to get a feel for the bike and used to how it looks and it's breaks etc.
So could I go from nothing to a 33bhp restricted 600?
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 Posted: 18:08 - 08 Jan 2012 Post subject: Re: Gonna Start up hopefully |
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 Posted: 18:16 - 08 Jan 2012 Post subject: |
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GSX600?
https://www.eduardstornebrink.nl/suzuki_gsx600f.jpg
That is a GSX600F. Old oil-cooled motor in a steel beam frame, with full enclosed body-work; it was launched in the mid 80's as a budget alternative to the original 'Jelly-mold' CBR600. It was nover considered a 'Sports-Bike' even then; it was a sporty all-rounder. Not a BAD bike for a newbie TBH; Bandit engine, basically. A bit 'cammy' bit not TOO bad. Small frame though; I found one rather cramped; they are surprisingly 'slim' but the seat is rather deeply recessed; and I felt like I was wearing a thong a size too small for me.... but known a few people that have had them, and rate them. Long in the tooth now, though, and they have a few known weak-spots; I think second gear has a habbit of going missing... but there are good ones out there and they are cheap; so if this really is your 'dream-bike' buy towards top of the market.
Ought not be so hard to restrict; and yes; a fairly good choice for a newbie bike; would see you through restriction period; but after; I suspect you might find it a little uninspiring, when unrestricted. THOUGH it was a pretty good allrounder, and could be a bike you could live with for many years if you dont want cutting edge performance. 75bhp, and 140+mph it's certainly more than 'adequete'.
https://www.tradebit.com/usr/motorepair/pub/9002/6512669_gsxr600-97.jpg
GSX-R600, is the 'sports bike'. The original 1983 GSX-R750 was the bike that put factory race replicas in the hands of the man on the street, and as 750 was the Super-Bike race capacity, that was the size they made them until the mid 90's when they launched the GSX-R600, to put something into the increasingly popular 600 super-sport class; and pretty sure that the 600 model was water-cooled from launch.
The GSX-R series has ALWAYS been single-minded, no compromise 'Racer-for-the-road'. To my mind they have never really made wonderful road bikes, but that's all subjective; people put up with the compromises to use them as every day bikes, or keep them as week-end toys. It is NOT a great place for a Newbie to start. There is a LOT of performance there to get to grips with, and they are so single minded, in everythng they do, actually starting on something 'softer' will help you apreciate it more, and get more out of one. If its you only term of reference, you will, for example get used to using the remarkable braking to let you go quick down the straits and scrub off speed for the bendy bits, or get you out of trouble, rather than learning a more predictive riding style and getting the most from the bike. And things like the riding position; dont make rear observation easy; important when starting out; so more easy for you to make a mistake.
IF you want a GSX; then great; I say go for it. If you want a GSX-R; then I suggest you hold fire; get something softer and less focussed first, to ride out your restriction. Getting 'used' to the 'R' will NOT take much time; and with something to compare it to, with some better experience under your belt fist, you will apreciate what the 'R' is doing for you more, and get more out of it.
MEANWHILE:-
Great to have an idea of where you want to be; BUT right now; stick those ideas on tha back burner. You need the licence FIRST and we have only a YEAR to go until the new licence laws that will see to it that you WILL NOT be able to ride a GSX-R for at least five years time....
Under proposed rules you will have to do A1 125 licence first; wait two years to 'upgrade' that to an A2, which will let you have a 'restricted' bike, but restricted to 45bhp from a machine making no more than 90 (which I think most GSX-R's do) for two years before you can upgrade THAT again to a full unrestricted licence. OR you will have to wait until you are 24 and do 'DAS'.
So, sod security posts and insurance quotes, or hunting out your ideal bike....
Get those forms filled out for your provisional; get reading up for your Theory/Hazard test; get your CBT and some road training sorted, and worry about bike to do it all on; and GET THE LICENCE..
When you have THAT, you can start fretting about big-bikes; but for NOW, unless you get that licence sorted you MAY be very, very dissapointed, and have to wait another six YEARS before ANY of it matters..... security posts will have rusted by then! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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 Posted: 19:22 - 08 Jan 2012 Post subject: Re: Gonna Start up hopefully |
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Oplite wrote: | I'd rather get a restricted one to save money rather than buying another bike later on and to get a feel for the bike and used to how it looks and it's breaks etc. |
You're kidding yourself. If you want a restricted Gixxer, get one, but you won't save money by doing it.
If it's a GSX-R that you're on about (and I suspect that it is) then you'll get raped on the insurance and end up spending loads more than you would if you got a SV650 or GS500F or some other bike that "only" does 110-120mph and 4 seconds to 60 - and they'll all be the same anyway at 25kW - and rode that until your restriction expires.
You'll also be at risk of damaging the engine if the fuelling goes wrong and it runs lean. And somewhere within that 2 year period, you will rationalise that it's now "safe" for the restrictors to "fall out".
Anyway, what Mike said. License ASAP (get the clock running on the 2 year 25kW period), then think about a bike. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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