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mgh0
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: worth putting an oiler on my cg125? Reply with quote

I have a brazil model with an enclosed chain, worth putting a tutoro oiler on there or not really?
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: worth putting an oiler on my cg125? Reply with quote

mgh0 wrote:
I have a brazil model with an enclosed chain, worth putting a tutoro oiler on there or not really?



Up to you.

Without the rain, roadspray, salt and dirt getting at your chain it stays clean and oily a lot longer anyway. I wouldn't bother, if you can justify the cost then go for it.


It's a shame commuter bikes aren't still made with enclosed drive chains, makes a lot of sense. Bring back enclosed drive chains and fork gaiters Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say it's not worth it. My CG has the chain guard too and I don't have to lube it very often. I use some chain wax that stays on longer anyway too. Every time I put some more wax on, it's just because it has been a while and not because it necessarily needs it. It's only if I leave it for ages that it looks different after I have put it on.

I reckon I've only lubed it about 6-8 times in total, and I've done nearly 7000 miles on it and chain and sprocket are still fine.


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PostPosted: 13:50 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Tutoro but it's a bit of a fuss remembering to turn it on and off all the time. I'd suggest looking at the Loobman instead, it seems a bit more idiot proof.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the chain wasn't enclosed, I'd fit a Loobman. Had one on my YBR for ages - it was very good.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowie was actually asking me about chain-oilers last night.
Her Super-Dream has an 'X-ring' chain on it.

For a bike with an O or X ring chain, value of an oiler, and oiling in general is limited. They do need lube, but the bearing surfaces, the rollers on each pin in each link are packed with grease at the factory and the O or X ring ought to 'seal for life'. So if the seal is doing its job, no lube in the bearing rollers ought get out, nor should any chain lube you put on get in; and all spray-lube is doing is leeping the external faces of the rollers that bear on the sprokets greased.

On a bike with a 'plain' chain, the links aren't sealed, so the grease in the links can escape, and crud and water can get in to them, as can any external lube you apply, so its more important to regularly lube the chain.

On my Comp-Trials bike, where the chain gets a fairly hard time; I would remove teh chain after each event, and put it straight into a jar of oil until I did the next event 'prep', when the chain would be removed from the oil, cleaned, and hot grease dipped; dropped into LM grease in a pan on a primus stove to melt it; the hot oil, heating the chain up, making the links expand and 'sweating' crud out of the links; then it would go into 'clean' dip of fresh hot grease, to get the grease into the links, before teh chain was taken out, excess grease dripped and wiped off and allowed to cool, the grease solidifying in the links.

Probably Over-Kill for a road bike, but as a periodic bit of preventative maintenence, maybe once a year or when you do an engine oil change, I know people that have claimed very long chain leves from such fastidiouseness. But anyway...

In either case; plain or seal-ring chains, they still need the tension adjusting periodically.

On my road bikes I have NEVER thought it so onerouse to spin the back wheel and squib a bit of oil on the chain as I check the sprocket alignment, the chain for any tight links, or the back tyre for damage & tread.

So IF you do propper maintenence and checks, then you really probably dont NEED an auto-luber, and there's a risk, that having one, discourages you from being so diligent ion doing the other necessary checks.

Fact that a CG's enclosed chain guard means you cant so easily tell if teh chain is slack, or anything to start with, and 'out of sight-out of mind'.... I'd say, NO... just make sure you look after chain and sprockets, and do the periodic maintenence the book says.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing I did with my H100 was fit the Loob..man!
Its not just the replacement factor of the chain, for me its more to do with when it goes tits up!

Edit: that said I decided not to fit the Loobman to the CX, waste of money really Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
For a bike with an O or X ring chain, value of an oiler, and oiling in general is limited.


The lubing on O and X ring chains isn't that in order to get lubricant into the rollers. We are attempting to lubricate the contact surfaces between the rollers and the sprocket teeth to prevent wear, trying to keep the O rings bathed in oil to stop them drying out and perishing and trying to stop the chain from corroding to the point that rough rust in the moving parts damages the O rings.

The chain on my bike when I bought it wasn't that old, but royally knackered because rust had set in, worn the sprockets and torn the O rings to shreds.
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