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PostPosted: 19:03 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pros:
Cheap
Reliable
Not horrible to look at
Not totally slow

Cons:
Boring
Not exactly the performance people will expect from a 600
low desirability so don't expect a queue of people to buy it when the time comes.

So for a first big bike, or something to get you to work and back in all weathers it's probably just the job. For thrills and laughs look else where.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, the sound is clutch basket rattle, to check this pull in the clutch and the noise should change / quieten down, as the engine gets hot it calms down due to metal expansion and it go's once on the move so only heard on tick over. Its caused by a pin / dowel on the back of the basket wearing, very hard to cure and most Divvys do it so its a case of living with it.

Good mpg, comfy, plenty of spares available, engines are good for huge mileages, easy to maintain, not the quickest 600 but will still beat cars at the traffic light derby. Good neutral handling, stainless exhaust is a plus due to expense ( I know I just bought one ), braided hoses improve brake feeling, BT45 are best tyres, good for pillions and luggage, will sit at motorway speeds + all day long. Very reliable bikes with a reputation for longevity, I'm quite fond of mine, does what it says on the tin. Check here for more information from owners with a lot of knowledge.

https://diversionclub.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=600&action=display&thread=2607
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pfff, dunno where to start.
I am totally new to a 600cc bike so to me it's like, I give it some and I am like Wheeeeew. Laughing

Sports bikers will probably just go "is that all?"

Bought mine at 11000 miles odd and she has just been perfect, I love her to bits.
As above, it does what is says on the tin, great analogy if you think about it.
I have twin front discs and I think the brakes are pretty good, my tires (BT45) are just perfect for this bike. Couldn't ask for better!!

2 up, brakes are pretty much just the same, they work.
They're not earth shatteringly, stop on a dime great but they don't really feel that different, but then I don't hoon like a mofo with the Mrs on the back.

Clutch rattle I get but only on cold start, once going, never get it.

I don't have no minus points, cos I love her Mr. Green

So sad I know.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wife had one as her first big bike after passing her test and I have to say I was pleasantly suprised on how good it actually was.

I used to borrow it to go shopping because it had a nice big topbox but was much easier to park than my Goldwing! Laughing

It was still going strong when she sold it. The only problem being a puff of blue smoke when she shut off the throttle, but I don't think that's particularly a problem with them, probably just worn valve guides.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good bike just had mine after passing test 3mnths ago same colour as well Very Happy .Love it to bits.rev them past 7k and they do go quite well .Very easy to ride slow and as said good on fuel.
How much if you don't mind me asking.Asking beacuse i paid £700 for 97 plate with 32thou Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 20:50 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had my 98 600 diversion s 3 month's now, very good bike and very comfortable too with the upright riding position, Thumbs Up good on fuel, cheap to insure,reliable Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahadumball wrote:
sidewinder wrote:
Good bike just had mine after passing test 3mnths ago same colour as well Very Happy .Love it to bits.rev them past 7k and they do go quite well .Very easy to ride slow and as said good on fuel.
How much if you don't mind me asking.Asking beacuse i paid £700 for 97 plate with 32thou Thumbs Up

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£500 with 3 months tax and mot on it.



Get it for £450 and recon it's worth a punt.bloody things are indestructible apparently Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a slight aside - how do Divvy 900s compare to the 600s on all the points above?
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

600s are pretty decent bikes, comfy and enough power to make a passable tourer. Stock exhaust rots badly at the joints of the can to the downpipes.

the 900 is bigger and heavier, not quite as good on fuel but roomier and has a shaft drive.

neither are rocket ships but are decent enough.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had mine for about 6 months now and I haven't found any real problems (going from a 125 onto the divvy), only things are the rattle which I've been told several things can cause it, but it doesn't affect performance.

This is just me personally... when the MOT was done, during the brake test both wheels locked up (which is good apparently), now I'm paranoid about having to stop quickly.

I find it quite nippy when you give it a handful, feels very stable in high winds (crossing the Severn Bridge regularly) I feel I would be blown off before the bike goes over.

Quite good on corners, although I've never plucked up the courage to see how far over it will go on corners.

Unless it is flat out everywhere it does give good miles per gallon, takes about £20 from empty to full, I've managed a nice steady ride out of about 110 miles and still only managed to get £11 in the tank afterwards.... although on the other side of the scale I have tried giving it the beans (first week I got it), and only managed about 125 miles before going to the reserve.

All in all, they are comfortable, reliable (other than the odd flat battery for some strange reason), fairly nippy, economical and not the most hideous thing out there.

Down side is they manage about 117 mph flat out... with or without pillion
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll chime in... been using one for over a week now, K reg with 18,000 miles.

Pros ... fairly cheap to run and insure.
Thats it.

Cons ... slow, looks ugly, handles like shit if neglected, takes a decade to warm up. Lacks power, 50hp is fine for the commute I do, but I got left behind on the way to the S.E meet...by an SV650. so thats saying something.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamey wrote:
As a slight aside - how do Divvy 900s compare to the 600s on all the points above?


The 900 is way better. I had one many years ago. Shaft drive and the extra CC's make it a pretty good 2 up tourer, especially with full luggage.

I'd never have a 600 myself, but another fully dressed 900 I'm tempted.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Had one a few years ago.

Best point was the handling. Nice and neutral. Comfy and easy on the motorway.

Down side was it was the most uninvolving bike I have ridden. The thrust bearings go in the clutch. Brakes are adequate. Vacuum fuel pump fitted to the early ones is a bad joke.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:32 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
I'll chime in... been using one for over a week now, K reg with 18,000 miles.

Pros ... fairly cheap to run and insure.
Thats it.

Cons ... slow, looks ugly, handles like shit if neglected, takes a decade to warm up. Lacks power, 50hp is fine for the commute I do, but I got left behind on the way to the S.E meet...by an SV650. so thats saying something.


theres not much in it, the mpg is 12 miles diffrent tho Laughing Although bike specs are never 100% reliable Laughing and i've nether drove a SV650 so can't compare the to bikes myself.


https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Yamaha/Yamaha-XJ600-Diversion-1992-2004/

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Suzuki/Suzuki-SV650S-1999-current/
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can never understand why, at the budget end of biking, people ask about Divi 600's, Bros's, Bandits SV 650's (not so budget) et. al. when the ZZR 600 literally pisses all over anything that dosen't have CBR or R6 written on its flanks. For literally peanuts you have a machine that is both insurance friendly and rocket ship fast.

The 900 Divie, now here is a machine that will definitely increase in value as people come to reckognise how damn good they are at what they do. No rocket ship, but something designed to do miles, in comfort, with minimal maintenance (and that minutes of your time). Superb, far better than any BMW, AND, can be made into something that can hustle, (believe me).
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Vacuum fuel pump fitted to the early ones is a bad joke.

All the best

Keith


But it does make a good security device.
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
I can never understand why, at the budget end of biking, people ask about Divi 600's, Bros's, Bandits SV 650's (not so budget) et. al. when the ZZR 600 literally pisses all over anything that dosen't have CBR or R6 written on its flanks. For literally peanuts you have a machine that is both insurance friendly and rocket ship fast.


ZZR600 is also far more complicated to work on and has serious problems with its gearbox once the miles pile on. I have helped a pal sort out his and this involved dismantling the gearbox to disable the neutral finder (this WILL fail at some point and most likely wreck second gear in the process).

Top end performance isn't the aim of the game on an economical commuter. Having ridden a divvy 600 and a ZZR6 the ZZR certainly doesn't have any edge as far as handling goes.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had an XJ600N for two winters.

Stops dead at 110mph. Wheelies fine in first with some abuse. Pegs go down early, didnt handle too badly though. Reliable, good on fuel. BT45s suit it. Good two-up. Ugly. Original exhausts rot. Generally tap alot.

Ran a 13.59 @ 95.88 down the 1/4 mile, IIRC. The launching technique was hold on the limiter and dump the clutch!
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of years back I had a GPZ500 and the_godfather off here had a divvy, they performed almost identically, close enough in acceleration to be down to the rider more than the bike. Both bikes were far quicker than you ever need to go.

We had a spirited ride down a very long hill on my private road that happens to share the same name as the M25, they both topped at near enough identical speeds, I was indicating 130mph on the GPZ, one of us was slowly creeping away from the other but I cant remember which was the faster.

Of course as mentioned above you don't buy that sort of bike for the performance so this is all largely irrelevant but I figured I'd mention it anyway.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were some issues with second gear on D type ZZR's, usually if oil changes had been missed or the bike ragged to death.
I have one purely as a cheap runabout, showing 47,890 miles as of today. Its been tanned around the IOM, been tanned on my favourite Hawes stretches, used as transport of choice if going into the city centre. It returns 45 - 50 mpg and that is using all its performance. Starts on the button, I just cant fault it, or kill it! Its handling is not race rep razor sharp, unless you do a (very) little work on the rear shock and set up the front properly.
I am not saying that they are all paragons of motorcycle virtue, as with everything, its condition must be checked thoroughly, but for an average of £800 for reasonably low milers its just so superior to the other 'touring / commuting' grey porridge that there is just no comparison.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
There were some issues with second gear on D type ZZR's, usually if oil changes had been missed or the bike ragged to death.


Plenty of E models suffer as well. Suspect with how clunky the gearbox is on fast changes that people hammering them and changing into 2nd is what wrecks the dogs.

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PostPosted: 10:34 - 18 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjdugen wrote:
the ZZR 600 literally [... blah]. For literally peanuts you have a machine that is both insurance friendly and rocket ship fast.

How many peanuts? I literally want to know.

Group 13 insurance doesn't seem that friendly compared to an SV, and while it does look like an amazing bike, it's more than some of us want, and certainly a lot more than anyone not touring on the autobahn needs. The value equation isn't always about performance-per-pound.
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