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To build muscle lift as heavy as you can, eat till the cows come home and rest, rest, rest.
Warm up with something you can do easily enough, then do a 5,3,2 max set, where you do 5 reps at lets say 50kg, 3 at 60kg, 2 at 70kg and then 80kg for a 1 rep max, the aim is muscle fatigue as that is when they are breaking down ready for the next step (i.e. food + rest to rebuild)
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Once you have got the muscle you will need to keep it up for ever, otherwise you will turn into me.  ____________________ Famous last words of Humpty Dumpty. " Stop pushing me "
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| vee wrote: | To build muscle lift as heavy as you can, eat till the cows come home and rest, rest, rest.
Warm up with something you can do easily enough, then do a 5,3,2 max set, where you do 5 reps at lets say 50kg, 3 at 60kg, 2 at 70kg and then 80kg for a 1 rep max, the aim is muscle fatigue as that is when they are breaking down ready for the next step (i.e. food + rest to rebuild)
Then burn the fat off in spring with more cardio and lighter weights. |
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https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2767/4377531687_391f325972.jpg
Eating a fuck load will let you gain muscle, but might also gain you some flab too. I see plenty of guys in the weights room with massive guns and a huge gut
Losing weight makes your muscles much more defined and makes you look a lot more muscular as a result.
So cut down on food and drink a butt load of protein shakes. |
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 Gazdaman I did a trackday!!!

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| vee wrote: | To build muscle lift as heavy as you can, eat till the cows come home and rest, rest, rest.
Warm up with something you can do easily enough, then do a 5,3,2 max set, where you do 5 reps at lets say 50kg, 3 at 60kg, 2 at 70kg and then 80kg for a 1 rep max, the aim is muscle fatigue as that is when they are breaking down ready for the next step (i.e. food + rest to rebuild)
Then burn the fat off in spring with more cardio and lighter weights. |
I like it. I've been on the protein for about as long as I've been training, and I have a decent appetite
I just need some pointers on which exercises for which muscle groups too. I.e Bench pressing for chest, chin ups for biceps, my chip up bar as got the right angled holds for tricep chin ups too.
I have been using a dumbell for sideways lifts to work my shoulders. Not really done anything with my legs so far though
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Aye, I mentioned this to Ghost before, maybe some of you can clear this up...
I get the gist of say;
Mon: leg & shoulders, Wed: Chest & Tri, Friday: Back & Bi...
However, when do you put in ab/core/neck/wrist etc...
And also, separating back and chest exercises is obvious... but separating chest/back from shoulder is difficult.
Ack, I just go there for /some/ exercise, but still.
Oh, as a home routine though, I'd really recommend the 100 pressups in 7 weeks thing. Gives you a bit more incentive to hit the press-ups hard, and when you complete it you can do different pressups. I'm on my third time working through it, and now I'm doing them one footed with a 40cm elevation... I'm on week 7 this week... my shoulders hate me. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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Oh, here's the 7 weeks to 100 press ups set list.
Just do whatever type of press up from a fresh start to see how many you can do, then choose the correct program. If you're half good at presents you'll be on advanced 2... 26+ from fresh  ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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the only problem with butterob method is that you need some hefty weights to make progress, with the compound exercises i.e. deadlifts, squats. i can almost guarantee within 1-2 weeks, you will be lifting at least another 10-15kg simply because your technique and form will have improved dramatically. if you plan on lifting weights seriously (i.e. regular routine for a few years) as a hobby, invest in some serious weights and an Olympic bar and you will see the best gains.
if however, you don't want to spend any more and have a limited set of weights then stick with the isolation exercises. workouts will be longer due to increased number of exercises to get the same workout as with compound exercises.
diet is also very important. cut out the shit. processed foods and sauces etc. soda drinks like pepsi/coke etc are also no good if you want to stay lean. they have high levels of fructose (i think it's fructose) which cannot be broken down easily and while a little is good (which you can get from fruit) a lot is simply stored or discarded.
i wouldn't cut out the fat, but you need to make sure you are eating the right type of fat, i.e. fats from nuts/olive oil etc that have high amounts of nutrition like omega 3 and 6. fruit and veg is also important. the vitamins and minerals will make sure that your body can then make use of all the protein and carbohydrate that you will need to feed it it gain that muscle.
last but not least, lifting all them weights requires a lot of energy. high carb food such as brown bread (not white), pasta, wholegrain foods to make sure your muscles have enough energy to lift them heavy weights.
also make sure you eat regularly, maybe 5 smaller meals a day instead of 3 big meals that leave you bloated and feeling sleepy. ____________________ Duke 390
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Squats are key
Your bench, shoulder press, deadlifts and bent over rows are key
In fact just them on their own will make every muscle in your body sore
Could do curls for biceps, skull crushers/incline bench press for triceps, shrugs for shoulders/traps, crunches and leg raises for abs and you are pretty much rocking it
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Get this...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arnold-Education-Bodybuilder-Schwarzenegger/dp/0722105711/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326485128&sr=1-2
It's got the basics of body-building and nutrition, plus it will be good inspiration.
As has been said by some....
basic compound exercises are the way to build mass, as for nutrition.... high protein, medium carbs and low fat diet, 5 or 6 small meals a day, 1.5 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass per day is a good starting point, also something that is overlooked is rest...muscles don't grow in the gym, they grow while they are resting and repairing...if you overtrain a muscle group it will reduce in size. ____________________ Yamaha FZS600 Fazer (gone but not forgotten). Current - Kawasaki ZX6R A1P |
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well as my point of view,
Building lean muscle mass requires dedication, discipline, consistent workouts and proper nutrition. Building muscle also takes time. "Advanced Fitness and Exercise Prescription" notes that a muscle must be exercised at 60 to 80 percent of its capacity several times a week to increase in size and strength. ____________________ Anabolic Steroids|Anabolic Steroids For Sale |
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| the_godfather wrote: | | herulach wrote: | Bollocks. Properly done barbell squats are one of the safest exercises you can do, dumbell squats will significantly reduce the weight you can lift (try finding, let alone keeping hold of 50+kg dumbells).
Proper form is key, and a full rom, (i.e. knees behind toes, ass below parallel.) |
can you explain why you think they are safe?
another reason why i don't like barbell squats is because they are not specific to anything. can you remember the last time you carried a large weight on the top of your back/shoulders. i know i can't |
I can remember the last time I did heavy lifting at work bent at the knees and picked it up like it was nothing whilst the other guys had 2 or 3 of them struggling to get it off the ground..... If you are feeling it more on your back then anywhere else you're doing it wrong, check your form, the bar just sits on top of my shoulders/back, I never feel any strain there, maybe in my lower back sometimes, but again thats my bad form rearing it's ugly head, your quads and glutes should be taking the impact, nothing else really, and in my opinion they really are the king of exercises, I have a love/hate relationship with them, really need to motivate myself to do them, but after a few weeks I'm always glad I did.
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| mr jamez wrote: | Its why you see people using foam pads on the barbell.
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Thanks for that, I have never understood why people use it, I tried it a few times to see what the fuss was about and it always felt wrong, and not safe at all for that matter, so always went straight back to the bare bar.
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