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dgo1212
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Smidsy'd, what do I do now? Reply with quote

As regards insurance, chap has accepted liability and claims he didn't see me, was pitch black where we were and we were in a dangerous spot so rather than stay there we decided to move as the damage appears to only be cosmetic, he lived nearby and suggested we go to his house to take pictures of damage as he had a garage with decent lighting. Damage to my bike appears to be light, right hand fairing, right indicator and both headlight bulbs blown, his car is a different story, front wing, headlight, bumper and bonnett (clearly I won Very Happy ). To top it off I even managed to stay on the bike, after bouncing off the side of his car I mounted the pavement and skidded to a stop.

What do I do now as I obviously want my bike fixing, he's calling his insurance in the morning regarding his car and I shall be calling him to discuss my bike, (didn't want to put too much pressure on him tonight as he is and old man and was clearly shaken up a lot more than me), do I ask him for his insurance companies contact details and call them myself, or do I need to contact my insurance company and let them deal with it? I can't afford to lose my bike while it's being repaired so would rather fix it myself and have his insurers pay for the parts (about £100 with 2nd hand fairing), would they do this or would they insist on taking it away to be repaired? Any advice appreciated and will try and post pics tomorrow.
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contact your insurance company with the details of the crash and give his vehicle info, they should be able to find his companies info from that.

On the side of repairs they will decide if it is worth while keeping the bike. They may wish to take the bike away to examined but you should be able to explain your desires.

It depends if the sweet old man continues to believe that it was his fault.

Well done on staying on and Glad to hear your ok

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dgo1212
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

itsdave wrote:
Contact your insurance company with the details of the crash and give his vehicle info, they should be able to find his companies info from that.

It depends if the sweet old man continues to believe that it was his fault.


Will call them asap, as for the sweet old man I have a gut feeling he would have driven off if I'd come off, as I was stopping on the pavement he drove on, I followed him and was trying to memorise his reg and started to flash my lights at him, he then pulled over about half a mile down the road from where it happened, there were many safe places to pull over prior to where he did, it wasn't until I checked for damage I realized I'd lost the headlights on dipped beam so he may not have realized I was actually ok and following him, will see what he has to say about that in the morning , thanks for the info Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prepare for the sweet old man to change his story, big bad biker came out of nowhere.
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PostPosted: 06:16 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As he is going by his ins co you are kinda stuck and will have to declare it to your.

As he drove off ??? I would be reporting to police.

You hit something, you stop where you are to check, then move afterwards......
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provided you and he both agree on the location then the road layout and locations of damage will clearly show the nose of his car going into your path when you have right of way.
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arry
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 19 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can contact his insurer direct. In fact, after he's reported it, the chances are they'll contact you. It's far more efficient and cost effective to handle third party claims direct as it does't ramp up administration costs etc.

You do need to notify your insurer though and disclose a non fault incident which you will not be claiming for from them as you will be pursuing your damages directly from the TPI.
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PostPosted: 01:04 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well contacted my insurance this morning, didn't go well as I forgot to inform them I'd recently moved house, charged me another £48 before they'd even deal with me, pissed off I asked them "even though this wasn't my fault , are you going to rip me off some more when I come to renew my policy", their response was unbelievable "you're due for renewal in February and a claim could take months, if he changes his story and doesn't accept liability you won't get this years no claims until it's proven it's his fault, is there anything else we can help you with?". my reply, "you haven't actually helped me at all, all you've done is extorted more money out of me and made the situation worse, needless to say I wont be insuring with you again once this policy expires".

I then rang the guy and asked if he'd spoken to his insurance, he told me he'd accepted liability and they were going to repair his car and leave him a courtesy vehicle, they asked him for my details but said no more about my bike, he offered to reimburse me for parts if I was happy to do the repairs myself, I declined as there's no guarantee he's going to pay up once it's repaired so he's offered to put the money up front on condition I give him receipts for the parts, still pissed at the inconvenience of fixing it but beats waiting for the insurers to deal with it.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine Wink is going through the same situation.

Third party was at fault but didn't admit liability at scene.

You need to talk to your insurers about putting in a claim against the third party (don't be worried)

He accepted liability at the scene (something you should never do) he also drove off and also said SMIDSY which all help in your favour. He's also said he accepts liability to his insurance so you are safe.

Your insurance will claim off his (this will not affect your insurance costs as you are not making a claim from your insurance, but his)

It may take a few months to sort, but is quicker as he's accepted liabililty.

As the bike is rideable they will arrange someone to come out to you to inspect the bike. Anything damaged they will price up as new parts plus labour to fit. They will then tell your insurers how much it will cost if not written off. They will then claim this off the other party. They will also ask if anything else was damaged like your helmet under 'uninsured loss'

E.G If the damage plus labour is £500, bike worth £1200. They will claim (attempt to) £500 from the other insurer.

E.G.2. If the damage plus labour is £1400, bike worth £1200. They will write it off (C or D most probably) and claim £1200 from the other insurer. 'To buy your bike back' they will estimate a scrap cost, usually 10%. So they will claim £1200 minus 10% (£120) from the other party so you can keep your bike.

You must go through insurance now.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess you know now that you were a mug to tell your insurer. Sad

Best thing all round would have been to get a cheque or cash from the Sweet Old Man and hope that he forgot your registration. Sorry.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it you have told the DVLA of your new address otherwise your licence is invalid and you are riding with no licence....
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

dgo1212 wrote:
their response was unbelievable "you're due for renewal in February and a claim could take months, if he changes his story and doesn't accept liability you won't get this years no claims until it's proven it's his fault, is there anything else we can help you with?".


Quite normal. After all if it does land up in court and being taken as being your fault in 2 years time they would probably struggle to get the extra premiums from you should you no longer be a customer.

dgo1212 wrote:
I then rang the guy and asked if he'd spoken to his insurance, he told me he'd accepted liability and they were going to repair his car and leave him a courtesy vehicle, they asked him for my details but said no more about my bike, he offered to reimburse me for parts if I was happy to do the repairs myself, I declined as there's no guarantee he's going to pay up once it's repaired so he's offered to put the money up front on condition I give him receipts for the parts, still pissed at the inconvenience of fixing it but beats waiting for the insurers to deal with it.


Not sure why he is offering to pay you directly. He is claiming from his insurance anyway so has pretty much nothing extra to lose from you claiming from his policy as well.

I presume you are tpft, in which case you insurance company has pretty much no interest in the claim if it is 100% the other parties fault. They won't be paying out to the other driver and they won't be paying out to you, and you have not paid them for fully comp where they would pay you and claim from the other insurer. What they might do is get themselves some extra profit from selling your details to a claims management company.

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PostPosted: 15:18 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Well, I guess you know now that you were a mug to tell your insurer. Sad


He'd have had no choice - it would have been loaded on the CUE database anyway because the TP had claimed and the details of the other vehicle involved would also be logged and cross referenced. So, short of keeping schtum and hoping to not be busted for non disclosure later on down the line, there wasn't really an option.

Dgo1212 - just because he has admitted liability doesn't mean that his insurers have, so be careful with that. The insured himself has no right to admit liability, only give an accurate account of what happened to his insurers - as they are indemnifying him they are the ones who receive the right to admit liability or dispute it. You need to speak to them directly and ask them if they're admitting liability and, if they are, ask them how they suggest going about getting your bike fixed with the minimum of fuss. If they do admit liability, then they'll send you a letter stating as much - which means your no claims bonus will not get held in abayance which means you can skip insurance company easy enough just disclosing the one non fault loss.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 20 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

m1tch wrote:
I take it you have told the DVLA of your new address otherwise your licence is invalid and you are riding with no licence....


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