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AndyRoberts
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Neon/LED lights? Reply with quote

Just to get this straight before I get into it, the only reason I would get neon/LED's on my bike would be to make myself more noticeable.
I am 17 with a 125, yes, but I'm not your typical (make my bike/car look like a christmas tree 'cause it's cool.) 17 year old chav.

But, from just looking online about having lights on your bike, the information seems misty in lots of people saying different things on what you can have, what colour and so forth.
Just wondering anyones thoughts and opinions on this and what the law might actually be?
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amber on the sides, red at the back & white at the front.


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It will look shit.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly a troll.

Especially when the 'legality of neon lights' thread hasn't vanished into the great BCF archive yet.

Use the fucking search button. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green each side at the front looks ok. Add some extra red ones at the back. Don't use amber, even though it's the "approved" colour for a marker light people might think you are indicating as they don't expect orange marker lights on a motorbike, only on trucks! Also, consider adding reflective silver stickers to your helmet.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree goto10. Especially with all those colours on at once haha!

st3v3, thankyou for your most valuable input, and for you information I only share certain features of a troll, none in the face thank jesus!
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing it's amber for inside the bike as well then? Say if you were going to put one on the underside of the tank to shine outwards.
And what about under the belly of the bike?
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyRoberts wrote:

st3v3, thankyou for your most valuable input, and for you information I only share certain features of a troll, none in the face thank jesus!
You're welcome. Good stuff, now, did you do a search?

It baffles me why newbies don't bother. It's plain inconsiderate.
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see why you would be slightly annoyed by us 'newbies', probably because you were one of the ones replying on the post that I found in the search about the same subject.
For your information I did find that post interesting (and funny) therefore I thank you for leading me to it Thumbs Up

... although the troll comment was nasty Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyRoberts wrote:
I can see why you would be slightly annoyed by us 'newbies', probably because you were one of the ones replying on the post that I found in the search about the same subject.
For your information I did find that post interesting (and funny) therefore I thank you for leading me to it Thumbs Up

... although the troll comment was nasty Rolling Eyes


Well pal, you seem like you got your head screwed on straight for a 17 year old. You've exhibited an astonishing ability to spell and write articulated sentences, which I am sure will stand you in good stead. And well done for not rising to the "troll" bait. Using Search is one of the basic things, but everyone does it. I forgot to do a search on my Thundercat thread and got it pointed out to me very quickly!

As for the lights, its about swinging some roundabouts. Do you ride in urban areas? If you do, more lights isn't going to make much of a difference. There already enough light in urban areas.

What I would say is invest in a set of good bulbs which are nice and bright, and if you want the extra attention then get a high-viz. I think they're more effective than extra bulbs and lights.
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had Blue LEDs as side lights.....
Myself think in the day time there alright....
Night time, its asking for trouble - Many times Id leave the Mrs house at midnight with them lights showing is asking for a pulling.
Amber is asking for trouble IMO (A friend had them) I couldnt tell if it was his lights or if he was indicating Thumbs Down
If you want to be seen, Hi Vis all the way - Lights wont really make a difference.
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louise wrote:
I had Blue LEDs as side lights.....
Myself think in the day time there alright....
Night time, its asking for trouble - Many times Id leave the Mrs house at midnight with them lights showing is asking for a pulling.
Amber is asking for trouble IMO (A friend had them) I couldnt tell if it was his lights or if he was indicating Thumbs Down
If you want to be seen, Hi Vis all the way - Lights wont really make a difference.

It's a good job you're a lesbian, otherwise I'd be disgusted in you. Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:50 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 02:24 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kitted my dad's virago out in hidden purple LED strips. looks amazing at night. Only visible from side.

If he gets stopped I've told him to say "Well you SAW me didn't you?"
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ride down a lot of unlit backroads so i felt i needed more light at the rear of my bike simply because i felt the rear light was too small
i got the back of my bike lit up a lot more with some cheap waterproof 12V leds off ebay
never had any issues with police Smile

https://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407280_2849477994170_1176062775_33268725_1593103226_n.jpg
im planning on doing the same to the front frame rails with "ultra white" leds
hope this helps
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LED lights on motorcycle/bikes have to conform to certain laws. As said in a previous thread, blue, green are a no, red must only show rearwards and white forwards. Amber side lights are allowed but may distract from your indicators.

Reflective strips however are perfectly legal. You can get it in many colours and it's not unheard of to make some nice designs using it. You can get pin-stripe, wheel rim tape or even some sheets of it to cut out any design you like (reflective Aprilia lion?).

Get some good 3M stuff. eBay sell the rolls (LINK). The sheets you can google.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think some people are jealous because only teenagers can get away with neons; if you're over 30 then you can't have neons on your bike or ride a skateboard.

Fact is, neons DO make a bike a lot more visible.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rowey wrote:
LED lights on motorcycle/bikes have to conform to certain laws. As said in a previous thread, blue, green are a no, red must only show rearwards and white forwards. Amber side lights are allowed but may distract from your indicators.
You're wrong.


As for Andy, Fair play to you but the Troll comment was suitable at the time.
You gotta see it, the same week we have a debated thread on Neon laws some new guy joins asking what he can/can't have...
Once you get to know some of the idiots here (like Warped. covdude, and some others) you'll see my point of view. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Rowey wrote:
LED lights on motorcycle/bikes have to conform to certain laws. As said in a previous thread, blue, green are a no, red must only show rearwards and white forwards. Amber side lights are allowed but may distract from your indicators.
You're wrong.

Are you going to back that up with a law quote to say why he's wrong!?
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 21 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv yet to see details of a court case proving the statements right.

Its a grey area, as the links to the rules as best as can be adapted show.

As long as the source of the neon is not visible to a motorist its not a crime, unless theres a case im unaware of where a rider/driver/trucker has been officially done for it?
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 23 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stock headlamp bulbs on my Varadero 125 were really poor, so I first tried changing them for 'Super-Bright' ones, but they weren't much better...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/439700/HL4.jpg
Standard on the left, Supers on the right, one of each in the middle.


I had upgraded my last 4 cars to HID, so decided to do the same on the bike...


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/439700/HID4.jpg

Much better now, and a lot safer!
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 23 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:
The stock headlamp bulbs on my Varadero 125 were really poor, so I first tried changing them for 'Super-Bright' ones, but they weren't much better...
Much better now, and a lot safer!


Now your pictures prove the whole problem with HID's......

You can't see a dammed thing as you are blinded by glare....
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 23 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:


Much better now, and a lot safer!


...unless you're the person unlucky enough to be riding/driving the opposite way to your dazzling HIDs
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 23 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:

...unless you're the person unlucky enough to be riding/driving the opposite way to your dazzling HIDs


If you are coming from the angle the picture was taken at, being dazzled would be the last of your worries Laughing

In normal use and with the correct adjustment, my HIDs do not dazzle oncoming traffic and the bike has just passed it's first MOT with them fitted.

They don't cause 'glare' either - even when riding in fog or heavy rain.

Many new bikes and cars are fitted with HIDs now, and they don't have a problem if they are setup correctly.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 23 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:

In normal use and with the correct adjustment, my HIDs do not dazzle oncoming traffic and the bike has just passed it's first MOT with them fitted.

They don't cause 'glare' either - even when riding in fog or heavy rain.

Many new bikes and cars are fitted with HIDs now, and they don't have a problem if they are setup correctly.


Hmm... there's the problem though - HIDs should really have the correct lenses (often 'projector' lenses) and self levelling gubbins to be properly 'safe' to use in traffic.

While I agree that often you can 'get away' with using HIDs, the fluting on the inside of the lenses often throws/scatters the light in odd places... I took them off my car for that reason - they passed MOT no problem, but the scatter was pretty awful.

Have been musing over what to do with my fighter for the last week or so... still undecided... (Dominators don't seem too great, not as bad as I've read though)
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 23 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:
with the correct adjustment, my HIDs do not dazzle oncoming traffic and the bike has just passed it's first MOT with them fitted.

Many new bikes and cars are fitted with HIDs now, and they don't have a problem if they are setup correctly.


So you have fitted a whole new headlight ? and not just a hid bulb then......

What you have to remember is a hid bulb creates it's light in a totally diffrent place and way to a halogon bulb.
Due to that change, your refelctor/lens is not working as designed....

MOT does not look at glare, just beam pattern.

And yes I do run a HID set up as well.
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