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Coxyzxr
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 28 Jan 2012    Post subject: Rough cost of fork seal & oil replace? Reply with quote

Suzuki dr200.
HATE doing fork seals and always fudge it im prepared to pay for it to be done this time.
Anyone have idea of rough cost at garage for this? Inc parts.

Thanks all.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 28 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Rough cost of fork seal & oil replace? Reply with quote

Coxyzxr wrote:
Suzuki dr200.
HATE doing fork seals and always fudge it im prepared to pay for it to be done this time.
Anyone have idea of rough cost at garage for this? Inc parts.

Thanks all.

Assuming they take them off the bike for you etc:

1 hour labour + parts for one seal. They shouldn't try to stretch it past 1.5 hours even for both seals.

Official Honda CB500 fork seal set is about £16. Per leg.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 28 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would have thought
20 quid for seals
20 quid for oil
and half hour labor
so 80 quid all up

or 20 if you do it your self,
it also my most hated job on a bike, i rather do valve clearances,
but a saving of 60 quid, would force me into doing it
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 28 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

recently got my forks done at a garage cause i didnt have the tools, cost me £68~

for reference they're wr 250 f forks, USD's Smile

i bought the oil myself n gave it to them, but they used their own seals, so yeah as above about 80 sounds fair Smile
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everywhere i've been have quoted me atleast £150 and thats with me providing the part, complete rip off so i'm going to do it myself with a mate Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:32 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

GSF Jamie 600 wrote:
Everywhere i've been have quoted me atleast £150 and thats with me providing the part, complete rip off so i'm going to do it myself with a mate Thumbs Up


Depends how much of the job you do yourself, and how much of a pig it is to work on. Take the forks out and drop them in and it makes things cheaper. Have a bike which you can't use a stand under the head stock on and it becomes a pain to suspend the bike. Naked bike can be harder as you have to get the forks back through the headlight mounts (which can be a pain).

Also depends on what the quote is to repair. Some suggest that doing the bushes is a good idea at the same time. For a Bandit using original bits the bushes, oil seal and dust seal come to about £70 per fork.

Last fork seal we did on the ZZR was a pig to get out. Landed up needed a lot of heat and violence to get it to move.

All the best

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PostPosted: 04:12 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£150? Jesus wept.

Kickstart wrote:

Last fork seal we did on the ZZR was a pig to get out. Landed up needed a lot of heat and violence to get it to move.

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PostPosted: 08:07 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the oil seals, dust seals and front asprings on the Bandit recently...
~£15 for dust seals, £10 for fork oil, and another £10 for the oil seals (all from Wemoto Thumbs Up Wink )

Bearing in mind I'd never done the job myself - with a little advice from MrHaynes and some help from my son, we got the job done in about 2 hours

[edit] however, unlike Kickstart, all the bolts and fittings appeared to have been well looked after, so excessive force wasn't needed Cool
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, well reading this has given me motivation to have another go.

Tried it on my gs500 and funked it up as seals were tough to get out - new ones leaked month later cause I accidentally scored the stanchion.

What would you suggest to push new oil seals on properly cAuse ofc manual suggest oil n seal replacement needs about 5 factory specific tools.

Agree with 'hmmmnz' give me valve clearances any day.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good call. Parts shop is right nr BnQ and open today.

Only workshop manual I have is for 88/89 dr200 (cause it was only 2quid) mines 94 but both use rwu forks and guessing by relatively unchanged models it should still be relevant ESP for fork oil level. (I hope)
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture485.jpg

I made a tool for measuring the correct air gap using a soap dispenser and the correct length of tube for a given level.

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture476.jpg

I made my own tools for disassembling the forks

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture474.jpg

Axle stands and a trolley jack were sufficient for getting the front end apart for this job

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture083.jpg

Some fork bushes are recessed so far down the inside of the upper fork that they are not easily replaced.On this early R1 the bushes are not available as standard.

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture481.jpg

It is a good idea to leave the forks draining for as long as possible so as to drain as much out as possible.I recommend using some cheap fork oil to refill the chamber and to flush out any old and dirty fork oil.It is surprising how much debris also flushes out.

While the forks are out it is a good idea to regrease the headrace bearings

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture463.jpg
https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture464.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dazbo666 wrote:

[edit] however, unlike Kickstart, all the bolts and fittings appeared to have been well looked after, so excessive force wasn't needed Cool


All the bolts came out easily. It was the actual seal itself that wouldn't shift without a lot of heat and force. Stuck solid.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:58 - 29 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Dazbo666 wrote:

[edit] however, unlike Kickstart, all the bolts and fittings appeared to have been well looked after, so excessive force wasn't needed Cool


All the bolts came out easily. It was the actual seal itself that wouldn't shift without a lot of heat and force. Stuck solid.

All the best

Keith


Well I went to shop to get the oil seals and oil but forgot to get the dusk seals. Pissed me off as its 45 mile round trip so I just ordered dust seals from the bay - no bother as I wanted to fit gaiters at same time so got both from same place. Will be here tues hopefully.

Ordered couple mainjets to try as well since I've opened up the exhaust and intake a bit but that's a story for another thread.

Really love this bike for some reason...
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take some time to clean up the fork internals properly. I usually give the internals a scrub with a pipe brush and some white spirit or petrol to get rid of the old oil scum at the bottom of the fork.

Also clean up where the seal sits - a little corrosion here makes it very difficult to get the new seal to fit properly. You can clean it up with emery paper - it will quickly get through the corrosion deposits, but the good metal is far harder and won't wear away quickly.

Get it really clean, use genuine seals, and take your time. It is possible to do the job quickly and cheaply, but you'll be doing it again soon. Be sure to dress back any corrosion on the fork stanchion with a finishing pad.
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