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Think the general consensus is:
Use it if you want to,
Don't ride like a prick / act silly towards police or they can be jobsworths and do you for it
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| Rogerborg wrote: | "Not for road use" or "Daytime use only" is irrelevant on visors. Unlike for exhausts, it has no meaning in law. What matters is that the visor has a BS4110 or E mark. No mark, illegal. Mark, legal.
I've noted a few times that there's no obvious way to verify whether a marked item actually does meet the required standard. My visor has a stuck on E13 label, so it was ostensibly tested in Luxembourg. How on earth would I check? And why should I? The presence of the mark is what matters as far as the law is concerned.
Incidentally, the label is peeling - the moment that it comes off, the visor becomes illegal.  So to keep on the right side of the law, I should make up another one and stick it on, right?
So here's what you do. Buy any visor you like, look the other way while a Glamorous Assistant slaps an "E" sticker on it, and you're every bit as legal as anyone else wearing any E marked visor, regardless of tint or "you gonna die, sucka" marking on it.
Yes, if it's over 50% tint then it shouldn't be E marked, but that's not your problem, is it? Came that way, right? |
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I wear a blacked out visor, aside from the "cool" factor I find it helps a lot at this time of year. The sun is very low and it helps me see a lot better. However if it gets cloudy then it can get a bit dark. I carry round a clear visor in a visor bag which clips on my waist in case I get caught out in the dark. Never had any trouble with it. |
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Cheers guys.
The visor in question looks very dark when your trying to look in (you can't see in) but I was surprised that when on it made less of a difference than I thought it would, could see easily out. Illegal, yes I reckon, but am gonna use it as I like it then see if i get any unwanted attention....
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| DaveB wrote: | Cheers guys.
The visor in question looks very dark when your trying to look in (you can't see in) but I was surprised that when on it made less of a difference than I thought it would, could see easily out. Illegal, yes I reckon, but am gonna use it as I like it  then see if i get any unwanted attention....
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I'd just carry the clear one with you as well, if you get pulled for it, try to be polite and then the cops are more likely to be reasonable, say you thought it is safer and more comfortable riding with a tinted visor rather than sunglasses but you're happy to put the clear one on now and won't use the tinted one on the road again.
Then use the tinted one the next time anyway. |
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| JoeDougieDouglas wrote: | I always though that the tinted visors up to 30% are legal, but the iridium (mirror'd) ones are illegal due to glare toward other road users? Hmm |
Illegal is defined by statutes (or common law). I'm still not entirely sure what offence you'd actually be charged with if you were were riding with a jet black visor with no BSI/E mark and "PIGS <3 COCK" painted on it.
Any ideas? I'm not talking about any penalties for manufacturing or selling, I'm after the actual charge that would laid against the rider, and the tariff for it if you're found guilty.
I'd suggest that the chances of being prosecuted, let alone convicted, are somewhere between "sod all" and half of that. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I rode around with this helmet and this visor for over a year and was pulled over whilst wearing it at 11pm at night and it wasn't questioned:
https://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/OllieePaul/IMG_0730.jpg?t=1272862480.
I'd still be wearing it too if it wasn't smashed up in an accident.
My main helmet at the moment has a totally blacked out visor on, you cannot see in at all so it's also crazy illegal, still have never been questioned about it.
That makes over three years riding motorcycles on the road without once being questioned about my highly illegal visors. I think the general consensus is that as long as you don't give a reason for the Police to bother you about it (See "RLAT & RLAC" ) then they won't, I will continue to use them as they are very useful.
Also, it's totally legal to wear sunglasses that block out any amount of visible light under a clear visor, just so you know.
I will say though, if you do intend on riding at night with it or you may end up riding at night with such a tinted visor then be prepared by taking a clear visor with you in a backpack or around your waist under your jacket otherwise be prepared to ride with your visor up which can get really old, really fast whilst it is freezing cold. !
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Old Thread Alert!
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