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Craggles
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Powerband & Red Line Reply with quote

The thread about red-lining made me think about a bikes powerband and where the red line is..

So I'm asking... what bike(s) do you have, and where is the red line, and what range is the powerband at?

I'll start - I have a 2001 4 stroke GN125, Redlines at 10k, Powerband 5 - 7.5k.

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PostPosted: 19:17 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

91 AR125, powerband about 7k onwards.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a GPZ500S, it red lines at 11000RPM.

And it really doesn't have a powerband as such cos its 4 stroke and power starts at about 2500RPM.

But there is a noticable surge at 7000RPM up to 10000RPM, so I spose you could call that powerband/range.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My TZR125 (based on my limited experience today) would seem to really kick in around 6k plus.
Craig wrote:
really hope I've used the right terminology referencing the powerband... or I'll look like one of Stes ebay customers!

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PostPosted: 19:30 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Lets see.

Aprilia AF1 '87, red line at 9250rpm, power starts at about 7000rpm.
Aprilia AF1 '88, red line at 10500rpm, power starts at about 8000rpm.
Aprilia RS125, red line at 10500rpm, power starts at about 8000rpm.
Cagiva Freccia C12R (ex road test bike), red line at 10000rpm, power starts at 9500rpm and finishes at 11000rpm.
Gilera CX125, red line at 12000rpm, power starts at about 8000rpm, but has a slight second kick at 11200rpm.
Yamaha Diversion, red lines at 9500rpm (I think), and no rea power band.
GPZ500S, red lines at 11000rpm, power comes in at 7000rpm.
FZ750 red lines at 10500rpm, no real power band just a good build up all through the rev range.
1200 Bandit (slightly tuned), red line at 10000rpm, power comes in very noticeably at 7000rpm.
Bimota YB10, red lines at 11500rpm, power comes in at about 5000rpm and more at 7000rpm.
Yamaha FZR600, red lines at 11500rpm, power comes in at about 7000rpm.

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PostPosted: 19:36 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And it really doesn't have a powerband as such cos its 4 stroke and power starts at about 2500RPM.

But there is a noticable surge at 7000RPM up to 10000RPM, so I spose you could call that powerband/range.


yeah - thats wat i mean, i find the gn125 isn't very responsive, nor does it have much accelleration below about 4k..

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PostPosted: 19:38 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ermm piaggiop typhoon
dosnt have a rev counter so i cant tell you redline..
as for powerband if it has one i havnt found it yet gradually and i mean gradually creeps to 45mph lol
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daytona 955i. Red lines at 10,500rpm.

Powerband? Thinking

From 2000- 10,500rpm Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve09 wrote:
ermm piaggiop typhoon
dosnt have a rev counter so i cant tell you redline..
as for powerband if it has one i havnt found it yet gradually and i mean gradually creeps to 45mph lol

I think the Typhoon picks up best between 30 and 40 M.P.H, but I am pretty sure we are ALWAYS redlining. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cbr400 gullarm, redlines at 14,500rpm. I'd say the "power" doesn't come in untill 7/8,000. But 10,000 is probably where it really starts.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to redline the R6 as the power tails off just before it.
Just change up at 14,500RPM,nice Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawasaki KR1-S, redline at 12,000, powerband starts at 7,000



Honda VFR400, redline at 14,000, powerband starts at 8,000



Kawasaki ZZR250, redline at 14,000, powerband starts at 10,000
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite fancy printing a custom tacho face with a circular dyno graph integrated into the tacho.

Dunno why, just think itd be cool, and possibly useful.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Claud 14.7 to 1 wrote:
Cbr400 gullarm, redlines at 14,500rpm. I'd say the "power" doesn't come in untill 7/8,000. But 10,000 is probably where it really starts.


You'll be wanted that race system and dyno time then Smile 8k and it really takes off Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

XR 125 - wish i had a tach to see my revs but i feel that the powerband kick in at around 4k-7k and redlines at 8k. It's very grunty once you get it in that zone and most cagers WILL get overtaken if i'm in 3rd gear down Kenton Lane.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last bike I had, TL1000R, a litre v twin. Power right the way through the revs.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

GSXR400R - Redlines at 15,000rpm. Power kicks in around 8k right to the redline. It lacks power below 4 really. I tend to ride around town at 4750rpm as that's where the exhaust sounds nicest for some reason. Also happens to be 30mph precisely in 3rd gear. Razz
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

2002 R6 RL @ 15500 RPM, PB @ 8000+ But most from 10000rpm.

Downgeared kicks in sooner!
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder where the power lies in a Honda CBR250 - 19,000 rpm redline anyone??

My RS125 - redline @ 11,000 rpm, powerband - dead below 5k, a bit of go between 5-6k, then it starts to shoot. Apparently there's a huge leap at 8k, but being on the right side of the law, I don't know just yet. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 20 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

2004 nxr 125. No powerband what so ever.
Also got a nsr but it blew up Sad

Do all bikes have rev limiters?
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My tzr250 redlines at 11K and there is a very nice surge of power at 6K and then it goes again at 9K.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProXimaCore wrote:
I tend to ride around town at 4750rpm as that's where the exhaust sounds nicest for some reason.


It's probably a bit lean at that point, for emissions / noise testing. Mine is the same, but some carb setup work can mitigate it. The proper fix would probably be getting replacement needles, but that'll cost ya Wink
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rory wrote:
Claud 14.7 to 1 wrote:
Cbr400 gullarm, redlines at 14,500rpm. I'd say the "power" doesn't come in untill 7/8,000. But 10,000 is probably where it really starts.


You'll be wanted that race system and dyno time then Smile 8k and it really takes off Twisted Evil


Smile If I had money. Wink

Na im just going to get a 600 when I really feel I need any more power.

The 400 is great because you can continuously improve your cornering skills. You don’t need loads of power for fun. I cant wait to start doing some track days on it.

It’s definitely a keeper, even after I get my next one (which will be in ages, as i have no money). Smile

Plus its running fine at the mo, which is nice.
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.wakeuphate.com/hosted/frosty/dyno.jpg

Is the dyno output from mine, it redlines at 11.5k, max's out at 13.5k
As you can see from the dyno the powerband comes allmost in 2 stages with a noticeable lul in power in the middle. Peak power is produced at 10.5k with a sharp drop off in power before red line. hence there is absolutly no point in redlining my bike Razz
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 21 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR Picks up power from about 6K onwards. I think peak is at about 12k.

I like the sound though, so usually It goes all the way to 14.5K. Smile
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