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Benson_JV
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Insurance through the roof?! Reply with quote

Salutations comrades.

My first year of being raped by the insurance companies has come to an end.
I paid £1100 or so last year and up until a couple of weeks ago I was being requoted around £7-800 which I was quite happy with.
Now the problem is now I'm being quoted absolutely no less than £2000

What gives?! Nothing has changed between my quotes of a few weeks ago and now. There is no way I can afford that and thus will lose my job...not cool. Evil or Very Mad
I've tried changing it to a locked garage, commuting, no commuting, job type, everything!
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea, I'm in same situation.

I heard insurance is going up and all but it seems a bit.. shit.

Was getting quotes for TPFT on a 125 for £360 about 5 weeks ago. Now it's £1,290 !

What in gods name..

Gonna have to go for third party only. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: 09:58 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will say it again...the insurance industry needs to be govt regulated to stop this criminal fraud.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine went up 80 quid in two weeks, which was a bit bizarre. Didn't really have much choice as I'd just bought the car though.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just changed my car from a powerful 2.5 litre V6 Alfa Romeo to a sensible (read f**king boreing) 2 litre ford C max and my insurance went up from 650 to 700, with another years no claim.

When I asked why they came out with some bullshit that meant nothing. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I've just changed my car from a powerful 2.5 litre V6 Alfa Romeo to a sensible (read f**king boreing) 2 litre ford C max and my insurance went up from 650 to 700, with another years no claim.

When I asked why they came out with some bullshit that meant nothing. Evil or Very Mad


I should imagine more school run mums crash their C-Max's in to each other, touch park or run each others children over outside the school gates than Alfa drivers do.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
I've just changed my car from a powerful 2.5 litre V6 Alfa Romeo to a sensible (read f**king boreing) 2 litre ford C max and my insurance went up from 650 to 700, with another years no claim.

When I asked why they came out with some bullshit that meant nothing. Evil or Very Mad


I should imagine more school run mums crash their C-Max's in to each other, touch park or run each others children over outside the school gates than Alfa drivers do.


LOL, you are probably right. I shall have to go yummy mummy hunting in my C Max to test the theory Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride / drive without any insurance , only costs 80 quid and that's if you get caught ! Bargain I rekon
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about dropping £500 on something like a CB500 as the insurance would be cheaper but can't find anything for that money!

This is not on.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
Ride / drive without any insurance , only costs 80 quid and that's if you get caught ! Bargain I rekon


My daughter pays £2500 third party for a sub 1000cc saxo thats worth at the most £500. No wonder youngsters drive without insurance and I can't really say I blame them.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny old world innit. I bet all those people who no-win-no-fee themsleves five-figure settlements for "whiplash injuries" following a minor ding in the high street bitch about the price of insurance these days too. It's a bit like fishermen going way over their quotas and then bitching that there aren't any fish left.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's best to get insurance before the new year if you can - as it often seems to go up then. Been a lot going up over the industry. Some are justified, but I'm sure plenty aren't too.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am quite stuffed then as I simply cannot afford two grand! F'ing rip off artists.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
Ride / drive without any insurance , only costs 80 quid and that's if you get caught ! Bargain I rekon


£200-£250 and 6 points, IN10 on your licence...

Yea, sounds like a bargain Wink

Benson, call (don't quote online) H&R Insurance. Quoted flat mate for a GSXR online at 780 TPFT at 33hp and licence for 3 weeks.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duh what has happened is all the insurance industry bods have gotten together and decided to raise their prices in a coordinated manner because they are a cartel.

When the office of fair trading comes round, they collectively give the inspectors a suitcase filled with money to make the problem go away.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you in an area that suffers a lot of insurance fraud?
That could certainly be contributory.

I'd start by ringing around.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the companies offering cheaper deals are the ones not on price comparison sites etc. So get a list of the ones you have been quoted by, then ring everyone else - back as it used to be Smile.

What's your commute length?
Tried getting some quotes on other bikes?
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
It's best to get insurance before the new year if you can - as it often seems to go up then. Been a lot going up over the industry. Some are justified, but I'm sure plenty aren't too.



Bah, been driving a car and have oh about 13 years no claims, have had no accidents and do bog all miles. My job status has not changed either.

But every year it goes up up and away...

Its just a cartel tbh, Baksheesh is very real and very common in the UK.

We should go Japan, Japan every licence and number plate has a absolute rock bottom amount of 3rd party insurance which allows you to ride on the road. Most people choose not to ride or drive with such a low level of insurance.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, have you got new quotes every year - renewal quotes are well known to be too high because a good percentage of people take them.

fatpies wrote:

We should go Japan, Japan every licence and number plate has a absolute rock bottom amount of 3rd party insurance which allows you to ride on the road. Most people choose not to ride or drive with such a low level of insurance.

Have a look at the populace in general in Japan and how they behave in relation to the populace in general in the UK.

A lot high proportion of people in the UK seem willing to rip off their own population.

The reality is that insurance costs have been going up year on year, so we should expect prices to go up.

The question, I think, is whether they have been going up at a greater rate than the costs have been going up, which seems pretty likely.

But then how many of us make a point of checking out the companies we patronise to make sure they aren't supporting share portfolios that push up this sort of thing.
In the end, companies work like this because investors want a good return on their investment - companies that rip off their customers offer this.
We are the people that support the companies that support this sort of thing. And even 'ethical' stuff still tends to support this.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Granted this is true of Japan, considering there was little (reported) looting and murdering post Tsunami/Earthquake.


The point is the cost is becoming so incredibly high that it is self defeating.

Remember that post on why should we pay for boob implants? Constant gouging in costs of living mean we become uncompetitive as a nation which means more jobs go overseas.


And as such more and more people think sack that and don't drive depriving the insurance of more premiums.

Classic death spiral tbh.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try Hastings direct. My ZZR is £120 fully comp and adding the 125 onto the policy (again fully comp) is £20.

I won't say how much my car insurance is though Mad
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
It's best to get insurance before the new year if you can - as it often seems to go up then.


Laughing

Think about it!
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:

We should go Japan, Japan every licence and number plate has a absolute rock bottom amount of 3rd party insurance which allows you to ride on the road. Most people choose not to ride or drive with such a low level of insurance.


Similar system in some states in Aus (maybe all). Result is that their road tax equivalent is hideously expensive compared to the UK (15 years ago when I was in Melbourne I think it worked out as ~£200 for a 750cc bike, compared to £40 in the UK).

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PostPosted: 13:05 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

At a wild guess, I'd venture that Equity Red Star have been keeping costs down, but they have just now "exited unprofitable business and increased the price of premiums across its motor insurance business.".

I suspect this because I just hit up a comparison site and virtually all the cheap quotes were underwritten by "Highway" - I can't recall seeing Equity Red Star at all.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
fatpies wrote:

We should go Japan, Japan every licence and number plate has a absolute rock bottom amount of 3rd party insurance which allows you to ride on the road. Most people choose not to ride or drive with such a low level of insurance.


Similar system in some states in Aus (maybe all). Result is that their road tax equivalent is hideously expensive compared to the UK (15 years ago when I was in Melbourne I think it worked out as ~£200 for a 750cc bike, compared to £40 in the UK).

All the best

Keith


That's not bad if it includes insurance.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 30 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
I will say it again...the insurance industry needs to be govt regulated to stop this criminal fraud.


And no win no fee needs to be abolished
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