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skipinoz88
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Buying ER5 advice please Reply with quote

Hi there,

I passed my A2 test in July and have been cycling to work since then, but I think i want to get a bike now as i'm fed up of having to shower every time I get to work.


I have seen this on ebay, and have offered 800, for the bike including delivery, which in principal has been accepted by the owner.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-ER5-ER-500-A2-1999-/300652158301?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item460043dd5d


I just wanted experienced thoughts on whether it was a good price and if it seemed ok. i noticed the seller had excellent feedback. I
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The price seems okay, I sold my X reg one 4 years ago with 35k for £850.

Looking at the picture the exhaust has seen better days.

I can't see any bar ends either, they are not expensive though.

The rear ns indicator looks scuffed.

Not sure about the fork seals, I can't tell from the picture.

Perhaps asking and them posting full resolution pictures would be a better idea.

At that age of Er5 expect the regulator to go and your rear drum to go oval.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The front indicators are not original.
The downpipes have seen a few winters of action.
The red paint is rubbing off the rear plastics showing black underneath. This *might* mean that it has once-upon-a-time black plastics (i.e. off another bike) that have been sprayed red. I'm not sure why the red paint is showing up orange in some pictures. Might be that it's had a respray. Might just be the light.
Again, it could just be the light but the brake and clutch levers look different colours.
The frame looks matt black rather than gloss, particularly in the front-on shots. Sprayed?

Of course, any 12 year old ER5 is likely to have been down on its side once or twice. What do you expect for £800?
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skipinoz88
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for the replies they are greatly appreciated, I will take them into consideration.


do you think it is worth spending a little extra to get a bike that is in better condition?

What would you buy with a budget of £1100 for a bike you wanted to commute on and would be your first bike?
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an ER-5, for exactly 1100.

A few months later I PXed it against an FZS600 because I was bored of the ER-5. Once you get over the whole "woo I've got my own bike" thing, 50bhp doesn't go very far.

I should add - the ER-5 went over 3 times for one reason or another and came back up each time without a scratch. In that sense it was the perfect first bike.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

this divvy 600
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-YAMAHA-XJ-600-S-DIVERSION-BLACK-/130638896017?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1e6aaf5b91

Big pussy cat to ride.
good on fuel
cheap to insure Very Happy

Been using mine now for 6mnths since passing my test.And still enjoying it Thumbs Up
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kawakid
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

skipinoz88 wrote:
Many thanks for the replies they are greatly appreciated, I will take them into consideration.


do you think it is worth spending a little extra to get a bike that is in better condition?

What would you buy with a budget of £1100 for a bike you wanted to commute on and would be your first bike?




I saw a good looking Er5 on ebay with service history and mots going back ten years for £1200.

The er5 is an excellent bike for a newbie, I rode one for nearly 4 years and was gutted when I sold it.

I really think you need better pictures of the bike. On the other hand £800 is not a lot of money, it comes with 12 months Mot.

It's really up to you £1100 is not a high budget for a bike, so you aren't going to get something perfect.
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skipinoz88
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers again for taking the time to look at the bike and giving other suggestions , I guess in my budget I am going to have to accept some issues with any bike i purchase.


last opinion if possible I saw this at my local dealer, they seem to have a lot of miles, but are relatively new and should have been looked after, Also they come with a years warranty, thoughts?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB-500-2007-ABS-/190616057093?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c619a3505

thanks again
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 31 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a lot of bike for the money. The trade-off for that is almost interstellar mileage. There are 9 bikes and the photos are obviously going to be of the best of the bunch. They may have been serviced well but with 75-100k miles on the clock *lots* of parts are going to need replacing soon. The price seems to reflect that. I've never ridden such a high mileage bike so I don't know what's likely to fail - probably bits that have been replaced twice over already.

Probably not as good as they look, I suppose is my opinion. I'd consider one, but I'd want to see one and ride it first. Get an idea of what sort of state the clutch, gearbox, chain and sprockets, suspension etc is all in.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 01 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There again IF what the seller has written is true, that they were used as blood delivery bikes, I would expect them to be well serviced.

Yes 75000+ miles is huge on a bike, but whether its quite as valid a rejection point on a low powered commuter as a highly strung sports bike I'm not so sure.

Also, 100000+ miles is nothing in a car, and they still have bearings and shocks and other such bits that wear out, yet we don't worry about them and I would say most bike owners look after their bikes better than car owners do.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 01 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can buy mine for £900 20K 2004

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PostPosted: 23:16 - 01 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

skipinoz88 wrote:
cheers again for taking the time to look at the bike and giving other suggestions , I guess in my budget I am going to have to accept some issues with any bike i purchase.


last opinion if possible I saw this at my local dealer, they seem to have a lot of miles, but are relatively new and should have been looked after, Also they come with a years warranty, thoughts?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB-500-2007-ABS-/190616057093?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c619a3505

thanks again


Thoughts are that it's an ex-Lewis Day medical couriers company bike NOT a specific blood delivery bike but a courier rental bike. BIG difference.
The other 8 are also Ex Lewis Day bikes. They will either be registered to Lewis day at East Road N1, possibly a place up in Hendon or possibly Stean St N1.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 01 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:


Thoughts are that it's an ex-Lewis Day medical couriers company bike NOT a specific blood delivery bike but a courier rental bike. BIG difference.


OK then, you and marmalade do stupid miles on a bike, so where does the 'good servicing' get overtaken by miles, bearing in mind that a couriers bike doing 300 miles a day pobably suffers less wear than my bike doing 20 miles a da with 10 stop/starts.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 01 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
OK then, you and marmalade do stupid miles on a bike, so where does the 'good servicing' get overtaken by miles, bearing in mind that a couriers bike doing 300 miles a day pobably suffers less wear than my bike doing 20 miles a da with 10 stop/starts.


When I work as a courier I can do 40+ starts a day as well as a few hundred miles. Rare that it's just the few hundred miles. When you consider the average commuter bike is only started twice a day, once to get ot work and once to get hime and the average courier bike will be at least 20+ times you can see why there are so many starter motors on ebay at silly prices.

Those bikes are probably the ones without scratched exhausts built up with the best bodywork they had to fetch the highest prices possible. It's what I would do if I had to fetch top dollar and had no scruples.
There is no way to tell what condition they are in without checking the oil pressure. As an example my 3 year old ER6 has 67000miles on it although it's on its second engine which has only 52000miles on it but it does use oil. Always been run on good oil with all the oil changes but often good servicing isn't enough. Some bike do high mileages well some don't.

Lewis Day bikes should at least have been serviced well, they had their own workshops but I wouldn't touch those bikes at those prices especially when I believe they were despatch rentals not blood bikes. Like most other couriers I don't trust other peoples servicing.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 02 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornetmike wrote:



Just wanted to thank everyone for their input, you've given me lots to think about. I think I will leave the high mileage bikes. I could realistically stretch higher to £1500, but I guess I would be worried about dropping it or it getting stolen.

guys you have £1500 for a 1st bike, what do you buy? I liked the 'divvy' but it wasn't local.

I would definitely think about buying your bike mike, if you live in London?
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

With 1500 to play with I'd probably be looking at a Bandit.

Alternatively, a 1st gen SV650 is achievable for £1500. *just*

Both 70ish bhp but the former is an inline 4 and the latter is a V-twin.
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would avoid a bike if I could only *just* get one in my budget (because basically it's going to be a bit shit), I'd rather go for the top end of a lesser model.
You could always get lucky I guess!
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