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haroman666
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 Posted: 00:57 - 01 Feb 2012  Post subject: Post degree activities |
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This evening, I've been contemplating what I may do when I finish my degree.
Now, I'm currently in 2nd year so I have another whole year and a half to mull this over.
But regardless of the time I have left to decide, I couldn't help but feel like I have no direction.
I study Motorsport Technology. As interesting as that sounds, it's dull as hell. It involves a shit load of Maths, general understanding of engineering as a whole and a little bit of business/project management based material. Not what I was really expecting to be honest. Regardless, I've soldiered on, wanting to finish what I started; to please the parents and to gain a sense of achievement (Oh, and a degree).
I think I will be quite employable come graduation (Assuming I make it) and therefore I'm not reeeeally restricted in career choice.
Thing is, I don't want to start my "career" as I step out of uni.
But I do want to work, to earn me enough to just live on my own and get into the swing of daily life as a rent/bill/tax paying non-student.
Thing is, I have no idea what I want to do.
I've worked as a mechanic, kitchen porter and a barman. Not a huge list.
I could easily go back into any of those. But I don't want to. I want to do something new. But something that I wont get bored of 3 weeks in.
So I sat and thought to myself: what do I enjoy doing and could do all the time? All I could think of is: Riding/driving my motorbike/mountain bike/car(haven't got one but I like driving)/skateboard and playing my drums.
Otherwise there's not much else that I do reeeally enjoy for long periods of time.
Thing is, that list has barely any scope for jobs/work.
I need some inspiration for jobs basically.
I'd like to know: What do you do to bring home the bacon? Do you enjoy it? What does the job involve? Is it really technical or could I go in with my degree and be able to learn/understand over time? And give me any random suggestions of other jobs too.
INB4: sell yourself on the street.
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| Posted: 01:20 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: Re: Post degree activities |
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| haroman666 wrote: | I think I will be quite employable come graduation (Assuming I make it) and therefore I'm not reeeeally restricted in career choice.
Thing is, I don't want to start my "career" as I step out of uni.
But I do want to work, to earn me enough to just live on my own and get into the swing of daily life as a rent/bill/tax paying non-student. |
I'm sorry to shatter your illusion but you're just somebody with a bit of paper once you graduate. You are nobody special for holding this bit of paper not are you unique or in short supply either.
It is experience that counts and without it, it is going to be tough to find a job. Since the economy is going down the pan it is even tougher. There are 10000s of graduates out there, maybe a lot in soft degrees, but a lot of them in decent ones too. Take Bonny for instance, graduated couple years ago and only found not very good work. And that was when the economy was better. Its an employers market these days. A new grad with no experience even in a good degree is way down the list of people to be hired.
Put yourself in the shoes of an employer and ask why should I hire Haroman666 ?
| haroman666 wrote: |
Thing is, I have no idea what I want to do.
I've worked as a mechanic, kitchen porter and a barman. Not a huge list.
I could easily go back into any of those. But I don't want to. I want to do something new. But something that I wont get bored of 3 weeks in. |
Again bad economy unless you're civil service, what makes you think you're going to have a choice?
| haroman666 wrote: | I need some inspiration for jobs basically.
I'd like to know: What do you do to bring home the bacon? Do you enjoy it? What does the job involve? Is it really technical or could I go in with my degree and be able to learn/understand over time? And give me any random suggestions of other jobs too. |
I used to be a wage slave in an office, I now work for myself and I am barely solvent due to cheating customers using Ltd company rules to worm out of paying me. Today I work in a very niche industry which I won't tell anybody about as my market share is tiny enough to keep a roof over my head.
Anyhow away from the negativity for an out there kind of job suggestion:
Look online for a person called Jonno Horne. He is a manager of Side target and shagging Hannah Swallow who is Heiress to the Swallow empire. They own Skydive Spain and Hibaldstow dropzone. Skydive Spain is near Faro, and its one of the businest in Europe.
Every so often amongst skydivers he spams us with job offers. Usually low pay but accomodation is included* and you'll probably learn to skydive for free but will be used as a lackey. I.e. hey kid I just assembled this skydiving rig, I want YOU to try it out.
It is better if you know how to skydive first. But Barbie Uren went out there about 5 years ago (abandoning his job at some big accounting firm or something) now and is now cheif rigger. He started out working in the admin office then driving the fuel truck, then working his way up to ground controller. All while packing and living in a tent on the roof of a spanish house.
IIRC they were after a packer after Polish Bob decided to go home. Packing is hard work and its 35C out there, and packing a canopy in 8 minutes is hard hard work.
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| Posted: 01:21 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: |
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Maybe do a years work placement before your 3rd year? It'll get you used tot he big wide world, living alone or finding people to live with. It will get you used to moving some place new so you won't be tempted to move in with your parents or something afterwards 
I did a work placement and found it helped improve my degree result as i went into the 3rd year off the back of working full time rather than off the back of 2 years of being a lazy student. I got a 1st in the end, moved to a big city and am still unemployed |
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| Posted: 15:18 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: Re: Post degree activities |
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| haroman666 wrote: | I could easily go back into any of those. But I don't want to. I want to do something new. But something that I wont get bored of 3 weeks in. |
It seems to be a myth amongst the young that all those people out there who hate their jobs have jobs that they hate because it didn't occur to them to get a job doing something they enjoy. People who say "oh I couldn't do a regular job" drive me mad - like they think they're somehow different to the rest of us and deserve to live like 50cent, given big heaps of cash for receiving blow jobs or something. As if the rest of us are stupid for not thinking of doing that.
Now I'm not having a go at the OP here, it just a hit a nerve that's all. The reason you get paid to work is because, typically, it isn't fun.
I am lucky. I have a job that I find ok, on the whole. I don't dread Monday morning, the job isn't repetitive, I get to travel quite a lot (which has its own ups and downs) and it pays quite well. And it finances the other half of my life, the bit that I'm supposed to enjoy, which I make the most of.
Incidentally, if you pick a hobby you love and try to do it for a living, it's still a job. It still has its stresses and worries. Basically, it risks ruining what was once an enjoyable hobby. |
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| Posted: 15:22 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: |
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I started my career the second I left college, started doing network installations.
I took a break when I got laid off and worked as general admin for a bit, then a photographer...
So after 2 or 3 years I got back into what I enjoyed... I'm loving it.
I would aim to get your foot in the door after uni if I'm honest, quicker you are in there, working your way up... you'll soon excel and be able to support yourself with ease.  |
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| Posted: 18:08 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: |
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Why did you undertake a degree you have no interest in, and one that you don't even intend on turning into a career?
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| Posted: 18:53 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: Re: Post degree activities |
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| fatpies wrote: | It is experience that counts... |
Indeed, am very much aware of that. Having done work experience in a garage alongside doing a BTEC in Automotive Engineering, I could tell I was miles ahead of my class mates as I knew how to apply what was learnt in lesson. The others didn't know how to turn a spanner come workshop sessions.
Thanks for the reply though. May have a ganders at the "Skydive Spain" you mentioned.
| Frost wrote: | Work placement stuff |
I did look heavily into placement as my course is a "sandwich course". And I was advised that after doing a placement, my employability would be significantly increased.
However, I was very much deterred by the idea of it as what my placement would involve is definately what I don't want to do (Design and development). I might be aiming low, but I don't want be the engineer to devise amazing designs. I'd rather be the workshop gimp to make it. (I'm very much a more hands on person)
Also given how late I've left it to apply, I will have missed the chance to get my application in, and I have put a deposit down on a house next year. Buggered for placement now I think. I'll regret it but I just want to get my course over and done with.
| angryjonny wrote: | like they think they're somehow different to the rest of us and deserve to live like 50cent etc etc |
Perhaps what I wrote did come across that way, but I am by no means of the thought that there's a job out there that I can get paid a lot for doing nothing. I am very much willing to get a mundane job that pays peanuts, if it means I can pay my bills and feed myself. I just thought that given I have a year and a half to speculate on jobs, I may as well look for something else.
I myself do hate people who expect everything on a silver platter. My current housemates at the moment are the epitome of this. I used to commute 3 hours (4mile bike ride, 2 buses and a 2mile walk) one way to work to do a job I hated just to save money for a moped for when I started my BTEC. And we've just finally resolved a dispute regarding a new house for next year involving them whining like bitches that they had to walk for 15mins to get to campus. (I won)
| ##Paddy## wrote: | I would aim to get your foot in the door after uni if I'm honest, quicker you are in there, working your way up... you'll soon excel and be able to support yourself with ease. |
This is very applicable to motorsport, I know, having been told many times. The thing is, i'm not willing to pursue my "career" job as such, when I step out of uni. I want to live a little before I do. I'm very much of the mindset that I work to live, not live to work. And given that I'm unsure of whether I want to be in motorsport at the moment means I don't want to commit.
You could say I'm taking a very ignorant attitude to all the advice I get, and I guess I do kind of want the moon on a stick. But I don't want to pursue and get stuck doing something I hate. I need to think this one through more, as I will probably be stuck low-down in the hierarchy of life if I don't get in there sooner.
| CHR15 wrote: | where are you doing your degree? |
University of Hertfordshire
| Redoko wrote: | Why did you undertake a degree you have no interest in, and one that you don't even intend on turning into a career? |
I was very much interested when I applied. But then I was alongside 50% of the other applicants who looked at the course title "Motorsport Technology" and thought: "Awesome! Gonna go work on race cars and shit."
Quite naive of me I know. However, on open days they preach about how it's a very involved course with very interesting, motorsport related modules. How wrong that is.
Sure what they lecture is applicable in some way or another, but some of it, very indirectly.
I didn't ever think I'd do so much more maths after I left school. Seems to dominate my educational life to be honest.
The biggest thing my course has taught me, is that I don't really want to be in motorsport. It's not all what I thought.
I'm taking from my experience at uni, all the transferable skills that it gives me: The ability to research, analyse and problem solve. My communication skills have doubled and I've become twice as mature as I was when I turned up. Doing something that I don't fully enjoy is also teaching me to grow some balls and get on with it. And I actually am learning stuff that I never would have, and any knowledge is precious.
Thanks for all the replies. Has helped my thoughts a bit.
Currently, i'm thinking I would love to work a season abroad, in a Ski/Mountain bike resort. I know it would gain me little, and it wouldn't add masses to my CV. But like I said: I want to live a little, and every brit I've met who was working abroad, told me it's amazing. Anybody done similar?
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| Posted: 20:40 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: Re: Post degree activities |
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| haroman666 wrote: | What do you do to bring home the bacon? Do you enjoy it? What does the job involve? |
My first career was in Printing, which, over the years (with college and degree under my belt) with the changes in technology evolved into an Artwork position (some website management and lots of advert creation) and later more studio work (stationery design etc.)
I really really loved my job...and I earned plenty.
Then after a spell abroad, doing voluntary work with children's charities I changed....and on my return to the UK I threw myself into all sorts of different courses, counselling, TESOL etc. and I currently work in Rehabilitation with adults with acquired brain injury.
It's the least amount of money I've earned in my life, is totally different from my former work...but I feel that working with and helping people far outweighs working with product. I like this job too, it is not at all comparable with my old job...I guess what makes any job is the people you work with (staff and/or clients).
I seriously doubt ^^^ this will help your decision any. Basically it's your life, you have to live it...so make the decisions based on what suits you (is my advice).
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| Posted: 21:55 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: |
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No matter what you end up wanting to do, you will need to stand out. As other posters have said, there are plenty of other graduates out there going after the same positions, whether that be a "career choice" or something to tide you over.
As an example, I have a first aid at work qualification, and wanted to expand my knowledge and make use of my skills, so got into event first aid through the Red Cross. Something like this can help to set you apart, and give you things to talk about if you get as far as interview.
It also develops skills that are transferable to being in employment, gives you experience of dealing with different situations (sometime stressful), time management skills, interpersonal skills, and exposure to people and places that you wouldn't normally get - a few duties at the local music venue can get you to know the management, with the potential to open doors if that is an avenue you want to explore.
If there is a similar opportunity in something relevant to what you want to do, give it serious thought now, if you can fit it in. If I was interviewing, I would be far more interested in someone who has got off their arse, was doing something, and had started to develop their life skills, rather than a blank canvas, like the hundreds of others on the market.
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