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| Dalemac |
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 Posted: 15:12 - 01 Feb 2012 Post subject: Anti Ethanol in Fuel Petition. |
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The fact that Ethanol is being used in petrol is not a widely known fact, as it has been kept quiet by the government. Fuels which include Ethanol are bad for older machines as well as newer bikes with plastic fuel tanks. Its also cheeky that the Ethanol is being used as a cheap alternative to pad out petrol, but the prices continue to rise. Essentially we are paying more for less 'petrol' which in turn damages our vehicles.
Below is a petition against the use of Ethanol in fuels.
https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/15535
also, some guidlines as to what companies use ethanol:
| Quote: | Re: Ethanol Free Fuel?
Postby Tonto » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:42 pm
Mick
Not sure if this helps, but I read some pointers on a classic car racing web page re ethanol content and associated damage. Not sure how accurate content is, but it seemed well researched. Anyway, I'm filling up with Total or Texaco Super since reading their findings: See below:
BP Ethanol added at 5% to unleaded petrol at all sites across the UK. BP Ultimate (super unleaded) does not have Ethanol added, except in the South West of England.
Esso Ethanol is added at 5% to unleaded petrol at most sites in the UK. Esso Super Unleaded petrol does not contain Ethanol, except in the South West of England (Devon & Cornwall)
Shell Shell has repeatedly refused to answer the question. It is therefore an assumption only, that all Shell petrol should be considered to contain 5% Ethanol.
Texaco Ethanol is added at 5% to unleaded petrol. Texaco Super Unleaded petrol does not contain Ethanol.
Total Ethanol is not added to any Total fuel (including standard unleaded petrol). Except in the North West and South East of England. |
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Ethanol is actually effing expensive compared to petroleum (before tax!), it's the ecomentals and CAP that are to blame for this debacle. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I'm sure they called the removal of lead from fuel death for most older cars but that really wasn't the case.
This is the same, it's done to reduce carbon emissions.
Whilst I disagree with putting it up from E5 to E10, I'd define myself as 'nonplussed' by the change.
In this day and age, 'carbon' has been DEMONIZED by the World's media for absolutely no reason, there is no scientific basis as to why it should be demonized in such a way.
The current estimates for human contribution towards the 'greenhouse effect' range from 0.2% to 2%. That is completely insignificant. It its 98%-99.8% natural processes that release the carbon dioxide and other gases that contribute towards 'global warming', which is another 'fad word' which is also cock of the poppiest nature.
'Global warming' is far too vague a notion, saying that the temperature of the Earth is increasing due to humans releasing greenhouse gasses is so far from the truth and not only because it's far too focussed on one part of the cause.
The surface temperature of the Earth almost always closely follows the solar activity cycles, severe volcanic eruptions and NATURAL greenhouse gas emissions, the anthropologic effect is incredibly small.
So why has carbon been demonized? To give politicians something to argue about and look good when they are fighting for... ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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Taken from the other thread
| Quote: | The UK Motor Cycle Industry Association and manufacturers and importers of
powered two wheelers into the UK have been contacted to elicit their views on
ethanol in petrol, specifically regarding material compatibility and carburettor icing
[95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106]. The following is a summary
of the information received:
• Triumph, all Triumph motorcycles have been compatible with E10 since at
least 1994. From 1993 to 2008 nylon moulded fuel tanks were employed
but due to vapour permeability concerns a switch back to steel tanks was
made [96].
• BMW. BMW motorcycles have been E10 compatible for at least twenty
years [107].
• Harley-Davidson. All motorcycles have been E10 compatible since the 90s
[108].
• Kawasaki. Kawasaki Heavy Industries are still considering the effects of
E10 and do not recommend its use [109].
• KTM. All models from 2000 are compatible with E10 [110].
• Yamaha. All models are compatible with E5 and some new models are
compatible with E10 [111].
• Suzuki. All models have been compatible with E10 since 2005 [112].
• Honda. All models have been compatible with E10 since 1993 but
carburettored vehicles could suffer poor drivability [164, 165]. |
Also I know it's affecting Ducati Monsters pretty bad as the plastic fuel tanks expand, there is a law suit against them in the US where people have had up to 4 tanks replaced. It's slowly making it's way here as I had to replace it on my previous bike. It's also happened to a few Sport Classics and 1 or 2 of the superbikes. The fuel tanks are made by Acerbis who also make tanks for other brands ____________________ Bikes : 2006 CBR125R - 2004 Monster 620ie - 2004 ZX-6R B1H - 2005 Monster S2R 800 - 2011 Street Triple - 2009 Streetfighter 1098 - 2014 ZX-6R 636
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I petition for more ethanol in fuel. Once there's enough in the fuel you'll be able to switch to 100% and make your own at home  ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 335 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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