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PostPosted: 10:16 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: The cold Reply with quote

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Is this retarded snow weather something to worry about with my yamaha ybr125?

I know its a pretty sturdy machine, but I worry about leaving it outside, I throw a towel over it as minimul protection, but I came out this morning and it was completely covered in snow lol

Is there anything to worry about? I wouldn't want the battery to die or something over the weekend... Question
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be better inside but the cold shouldn't be an issue if riding it at least once a week.
The towel over it might make the seat less unpleasant but could actually trap damp against it and encourage corrosion
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could get a full bike cover - not too expensive, and better protection that a towel!

Batteries don't do too well in freezing conditions, if yours is a bit flakey the cold weather could catch you out.

Other things to worry about - Anti-Freeze on water-cooled bikes, frozen locks, iced-up carburettor linkages, ice and condensation on HT leads...
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recomend bringing it into the house, wrapping it in a blankie and feeding it a cup of hot chocolate.

Rolling Eyes

Its a bike ffs, it wont die if you leave it in the cold.

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PostPosted: 12:08 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I recomend bringing it into the house, wrapping it in a blankie and feeding it a cup of hot chocolate.

Rolling Eyes

Its a bike ffs, it wont die if you leave it in the cold.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/be1ly/new/SS851888.jpg


Corrosion waiting to happen.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:


Corrosion waiting to happen.


Oddly enough that was taken last year. Bikes are still fine. In fact the only thing I have had to replace on the bike this year is the tax disk holder. Considering I bought the bike from a guy in Bexhill on the south coast, right at the sea, and currently live in Portsmouth, right on the sea. The bike has suffered very little in the way of corrosion.

Bike lives outside all year because I dont have a garage, The local ones have a waiting list on, so will never have one. Wont use a cover as during the summer they can increase the corrosion and, well the area I live in, covering it up only means you have something you want protected.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:


Its a bike ffs, it wont die if you leave it in the cold.


Mine has. New battery on way Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I recomend bringing it into the house, wrapping it in a blankie and feeding it a cup of hot chocolate.

Rolling Eyes

Its a bike ffs, it wont die if you leave it in the cold.



Well said that man - too many on here treat their bike like one of those idiot celebrity little dogs - spoilt and overly pampered.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Loosely quote Donny Brago (I think)

I think you are confusing snow with napalm.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bomberman wrote:
pinkyfloyd wrote:


Its a bike ffs, it wont die if you leave it in the cold.


Mine has. New battery on way Rolling Eyes



*ahem* There you go.

I just want to take good care of it and for it to last

I wouldn't even leave mine on a road like that
Mostly because I havent got the tax disc replacement yet though Thumbs Up


I read something about cold seizures happening when over revving or something after the bikes been cold as fu- for a while

It's all new to me.

I've heard about putting antifreeze in the radiator? Mate I don't even know where I fill or check the water, not got an owners manual and the ones i'm finding look complicated Neutral

And screw you! I love my bike, i'd fuck it if it had a pussy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:

I read something about cold seizures happening when over revving or something after the bikes been cold as fu- for a while

That's probably a mangled misquote of "don't rev it hard while it's warming up" - specifically, you need to run it long enough for the oil to warm up to a point where the viscosity is right. Cold oil doesn't get to all the places in the engine that it needs to be, so when you start it, let it idle for a while.
Alpha-9 wrote:

It's all new to me.

Yes, your posting style and content makes that abundantly clear.
Alpha-9 wrote:

I've heard about putting antifreeze in the radiator? Mate I don't even know where I fill or check the water, not got an owners manual and the ones i'm finding look complicated Neutral

Laughing
Your bike is a YBR, right? It's air cooled. There is no radiator, so stop thinking about putting water into it.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:

Your bike is a YBR, right? It's air cooled. There is no radiator, so stop thinking about putting water into it.



Delicious information, tastesgoodman
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Dunno about oil still/yet
Don't particularly wanna buy a haynes manual, i'm sure the PDF is knocking about the net somewhere Wink
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:

That's probably a mangled misquote of "don't rev it hard while it's warming up" - specifically, you need to run it long enough for the oil to warm up to a point where the viscosity is right. Cold oil doesn't get to all the places in the engine that it needs to be, so when you start it, let it idle for a while.

He may be thinking about two stroke cold seizures?
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nowhere.elysium wrote:


Don't particularly wanna buy a haynes manual, i'm sure the PDF is knocking about the net somewhere Wink


Don't understand that attitude - this is probably the most important purchase you will ever make to making sure your bike lasts and is in good nick. It will pay for itself after you have done your first oil and filter change yourself!

I use the back of mine to record all the work I do to it, including oil changes (dates and at what mileage) Makes a massive difference when you come to show a prospective new owner when you sell it on.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Don't particularly wanna buy a haynes manual, i'm sure the PDF is knocking about the net somewhere Wink


Personally, given the quality of the recent Haynes manuals, I'm inclined to agree. Get a proper Yamaha service manual; they're more expensive, but they're typically much, much better, and not prone to inaccuracies. Haynes are good for starting out, but if you're looking for accurate information regarding stripping the bike down properly, then it's about as much use as tits on a fish.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im also wondering about how best to keep a bike outside.. Ive just found this on the web. this would be cool if you have a back garden! https://www.feelgooduk.net/39-motorbike-motorcycle-cover-bike-home-shelter-garage.html
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the ybr service manual in pdf format, i'll sort it out for you later on. the haynes one would probably be better but if you have the fuel injection model i dont think they make that one yet.

my YBR is out in all weather and it has never failed to start even after being sat for a week or so, i really love that bike! Very Happy

just keep it clean and polished if possible, road muck / grime and stuff will make it rust more than it just getting wet or cold.

please do read up about maintenance and look after your bike, most of it can be done yoruself (for a 125) with a few tools and a willingness to google and learn.
it will mean more confidence on your bike, less likely to have an accident on a well maintained bike and it will be worth more when its time to trade up.

good luck Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheerfulgrin wrote:
i have the ybr service manual in pdf format, i'll sort it out for you later on. the haynes one would probably be better but if you have the fuel injection model i dont think they make that one yet.

my YBR is out in all weather and it has never failed to start even after being sat for a week or so, i really love that bike! Very Happy

just keep it clean and polished if possible, road muck / grime and stuff will make it rust more than it just getting wet or cold.

please do read up about maintenance and look after your bike, most of it can be done yoruself (for a 125) with a few tools and a willingness to google and learn.
it will mean more confidence on your bike, less likely to have an accident on a well maintained bike and it will be worth more when its time to trade up.

good luck Thumbs Up


I have the 2009 model. I'm pretty sure fuel injection was 2004+ but could be mistaken

What does fuel injection do guiyz? Laughing Embarassed
I figure it er, injects fuel
as opposed to er
some other way


And awesome, i'd appreciate that PDF Thumbs Up

I have the utmost faith that my bike will be fine don't get me wrong, but I would rather learn all the shit i need to know now, rather than waiting till I get a problem to fix it.

The only thing i need to change on my bike is the er, footpeg, which seems to be gaffa taped on Thumbs Up

And maybe the left mirror, thing seems to get loose easy, but i screw it back in o.O

I'm getting pretty confident in a short amount of time, just as long as I dodge the ice, its amazingly ridiculous, i nearly dropped it jsut pushing out my back garden, crazy snow
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My YBR spent 3 months sat in a garage when I was unable to ride it. Before I collected it, the dealer did it's (overdue) service as he anticipated that the battery may well need charging.

Started first time without missing a beat. In fact, all it needed was an oil change.

On the cover front, I personally like covers. I have one on mine and mine gets covered up every night. There's nothing worse than leaving it out in the rain for a few days and getting on to feel the wet being squeezed out of your seat leaving you with a nice, damp bum.

On the corrosion front, I personally wipe mine down every couple of days but that's mostly because our little front patio thing where it's parked is quite close to the road side and it's getting a bit of grit from the sprayers at the moment.

On the Haynes vs. Manual front, what year is your YBR? If it's a recent model (2010 onward) then the manual is out of date for some details such as the type of headlight bulb and how to remove it. I spent a very embarassing hour or so trying to unscrew my headlight bulb as per the manual's instructions only to find out that you just pulled it out. Check out eBay for a cheaper Haynes. You can get a new manual for about £20 or a PDF version (which I have as well if you want a copy).
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What does fuel injection do guiyz?


Put simply, the amount of fuel injected into the cylinder is electonically controlled.

The alternative is carburetors, where a vacuum chamber is used to "suck in" fuel and mix it with air before letting the mixture into the cylinder.

Carbs are more easily adjustable and problems can be easily repaired by most people with a little knowledge. Bike with carbs will usually have a manual choke too, to help the bike get going when it's cold.

Fuel injection systems are simpler from a rider's point of view, they will ensure there is always enough fuel in the system even when the bike is cold, and in theory they are more fuel efficient than carburetors. They are, however, not easily adjustable for an amateur mechanic, requiring changes to electronics systems to adjust fuel mixtures if required (such as when you swap exhausts etc.)

(All of the above may be absolute twaddle, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong Wink )
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 10 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.4shared.com/office/-NDcgu8W/yamaha_ybr125_service_manual.html

https://www.4shared.com/office/ma9hVVnR/yamaha_ybr125ssdd_parts_catalo.html

https://www.4shared.com/office/ao7ur_GJ/YBR-125-Service-Manual-Pt1.html


here are the documents that i managed to find on the YBR, these are for the earlier model, 2005 to 2009, mostly the same but yours may well be the injection model so bear that in mind.

youtube is an excellent place to get general maintenance and cleaning information.

i have done oil changes and chain / sprocket changes and replaced bulbs and stuff all from watching videos, theres some really helpful stuff online.

i didnt buy a haynes manual for the YBR as i knew they didnt make the fuel injection version, but i already had a haynes for 'chinese 125cc motorcycles' which gives a good idea of what is what for a few different types of bike rather than a specific model, i find it pretty useful.

i found that learning about and looking after my bike was all part and parcel of becoming a rider, afterall you have to do safety checks before every ride, so you need to be willing to know a bit of safety / mechanics i reckon.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 21 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome. Thanks guys.

Had to re-dig this up to check the replies.

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