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Bike_craze1
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Quick question.. bump starting a 600.. Reply with quote

Basically my CBR600RR's battery has lost power due to the alarm, needing to wait for my trickle charger to be delivered, in the mean time can these be bump started? or jump started off a car?

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PostPosted: 15:12 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jump off a car that is turned off.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen to paddy.

I'd avoid a running bump on a 600, you need to give it a touch of throttle and it'd be incredibly easy to let it get away from you. I spent 2 months with a dodgy battery on my 250 - that nearly got away a couple of times. Although if you have a convenient hill or a mate willing to push it's worth a go...
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have bump started my zx10 few times with no trouble .
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: Quick question.. bump starting a 600.. Reply with quote

Never had a problem jump starting 600s and done them loads of times - as well as my downgeared-tuned zx9 etc.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump started my FZR600 no problem a few times, shouldn't need any throttle at all. Didn't need (ok, I didn't want to risk Razz ) jumping on either.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump started my Hornet plenty of times, tiny taste of the throttle and be ready to catch the clutch as soon as it fires into life. I would recommend trying 2nd or 3rd gear though, back wheel always locks up in first, and that rings true for the fireblade as well.

I'd do it on flatland as well, sure a hill will help....if you get it right first time, I assure you it is no fun pushing these bastard things up hills because you accidently stalled it after a successful bump start.

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PostPosted: 15:50 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the battery is totally flat then I doubt that you will manage to start the engine by bumping.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I would jump start it unless there is a particular reason not to.

Flat battery on a bike sat for a while probably means no fuel pump running and no fuel pressure in the system, so you will need to push it long enough and hard enough for the charging system to put enough power into the electrical system to get the fuel pump running and power up the ECU.

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PostPosted: 16:37 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bump started in first with the choke in - works quite well at delivery the fuel in a controlled way and without it running away!
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:
I bump started in first with the choke in - works quite well at delivery the fuel in a controlled way and without it running away!


Do you lick spoons?
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Lupine Lacuna wrote:
I bump started in first with the choke in - works quite well at delivery the fuel in a controlled way and without it running away!


Do you lick spoons?



Only if they are window flavoured Laughing .
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:

Flat battery on a bike sat for a while probably means no fuel pump running and no fuel pressure in the system, so you will need to push it long enough and hard enough for the charging system to put enough power into the electrical system to get the fuel pump running and power up the ECU.

Yep - wouldn't bother on a modern bike if it's got 0 charge left.
However if it's got a bit, but not enough to start, bump start is generally ok with a modern carbed bike. May need a little more power with a FI bike.

Also some modern bike have fancy systems that only let the bike start if the clutch is pulled in and when you're actually pressing the starter - so you may have to disable this and hit the starter button as you dump the clutch.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: Quick question.. bump starting a 600.. Reply with quote

Bike_craze1 wrote:
Basically my CBR600RR's battery has lost power due to the alarm,


You know an alarm only uses something like 2.5mA - it would take months to drain a battery
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: Quick question.. bump starting a 600.. Reply with quote

c-m wrote:

You know an alarm only uses something like 2.5mA - it would take months to drain a battery

Depends on the alarm, how often it's going off, etc I suspect.

However, even at that rate with nothing extra, we're talking a month to lose 1.68 AH. On a say 9AH bike battery, that could be a fair chunk I'd have thought?
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 13 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run with it, jump on, knock into gear... it's not going to "get away from you". Piece of piss.
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PostPosted: 02:22 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump starting 600s is actually pretty easy.

I tend to just stick it in 2nd gear, pull the clutch in and run along, at about 6-8mph just jump on and time it so the second your arse hits the seat you dump the clutch, always works for me and my Father!

Luckily for me however, where I live when I come out of our driveway there is a hill about 150m in length and if I just let the bike coast down it is doing ~15-20mph by the time I get to the bottom! So I just let it coast down after an initial push and boom, started! Laughing!

If you don't want to bump, as said, just start it from a car near you but there is no issue with bumping it. Just make sure as soon as it starts you pull the clutch in and rev the bike to keep it going.

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PostPosted: 02:26 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bump started my uncles 1000RR with him a few months back and it was almost impossibru. We had to push it atleast 6 or 7 mph down hill and he had to jump on it when letting the clutch out and revving it. I almost did a front flip when he shot off too.

Moral of the story? Jump it off a car battery or replace the battery.
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX Jay wrote:
Run with it, jump on, knock into gear... it's not going to "get away from you". Piece of piss.

Tis not so simple! Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy one of those starter packs from argos.
https://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7402151/c_1/1|category_root|Garden+and+DIY|14418702/Trail/searchtext%3ECAR.htm
Not particularly cheap, but certainly cheaper than your plastics if you drop the bike.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUG wrote:
Tis not so simple! Laughing


I agree with TUG, I'm sure I could running bump a 600, but I wouldn't want to try it with my own Wink 90% of the time would be fine, but the time where your finger slips of the clutch because you've been running up and down your road for 10 mins in the cold...
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUG wrote:
ZX Jay wrote:
Run with it, jump on, knock into gear... it's not going to "get away from you". Piece of piss.

Tis not so simple! Laughing


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Provided you've got enough current to power up the fuel pump etc. it's easy. Bumped started a variety of bikes in first with no issues at all.

If you don't have enough power to get the fuel pump etc. going, then you'll need to jump it off another object with a 12v battery. Be that car, another bike, van etc. Just don't run the other vehicle if it's not a bike.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUG wrote:

Tis not so simple! Laughing

Do you do some kind of back-flip instead of a jump Confused.
Seems about that simple to me Smile.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its got a bit of life but not enough to turn it over you should be ok with a bump. Best to choose a slight downhill slope with plenty of room. Don't make the mistake I once did of bumping a Gixxer750 off at a petrol station and nearly hitting a wall (much to the amusement of my audience!!!)...
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump started a Bandit 600 plenty of times to know its easy on flat ground or top of hill, mind you no fuel pump just gravity, may not be as easy when you need to turn a pump over as well.

Bumped a ZXR 400 more times than I have digits and that wasn't too bad either and the battery on it was pretty screwed due to reg problems.

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