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PostPosted: 21:29 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: CBF 500 Vs CBF 600 Reply with quote

Hi. Very Happy

Relative newbie to biking so not massively knowledgeable about many things. LOL

But apart from the obvious 100cc and one being newer than the other what are the differences between the two please.


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PostPosted: 22:25 - 14 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: CBF 500 Vs CBF 600 Reply with quote

Nick_Giles wrote:
Hi. Very Happy

Relative newbie to biking so not massively knowledgeable about many things. LOL

But apart from the obvious 100cc and one being newer than the other what are the differences between the two please.


Nick.


CBF500 has two cylinders, CBF600 has four.

Technically that is probably about the biggest difference. BUT the differences in their charecter are HUGE.

The CBF600 is a 'naked' sports-bike, derived of the CBR600. Its motor is de-tuned for mid-range and is still very powerful, and its a very 'fast' motorcycle.

Like the engine, the suspension is 'tuned' to be more forgiving and softer, to be more suitable for 'real-road' riding, at more 'legal' speeds, and to be a little more pillion freindly and all-round capable.

BUT it is still a very fast 'sports' bike, if not a 'race replica'.

CBF500, VERY different animal, its an updated version of the old CB500 'commuter-twin', in more fasionable frock!

Its twin cylinder engine probably makes half as much power as the 600, and is far less eager or refined doing it. Nice soft lump with easily manageable power for a newbie, or a commuter contending with caffine deficient numpties, on a damp, dark winters morning.

Chassis likewise, is optimised for that kind of use, and its stable, and nimble and comfortable, and no where near as fast or inspiring to ride as the '6'.

Still a pretty 'quick' machine though. Ought to be good for around 110mph, though it will be a bit wheezy getting there from 80-90ish, while lower down, it wont provide the shear mind boggling acceleration the '6' might..... though sit still has enough to outdrag even 'fast' saloon cars off the lights and many of the intermediary 'roll on' speeds.

So; 600 is a 'naked' sports bike; 500 is a stylish, large capacity commuter.

Small difference in capacity, even smaller one in name, VERY big difference in 'charecter'.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: CBF 500 Vs CBF 600 Reply with quote

Nick_Giles wrote:
Hi. Very Happy

Relative newbie to biking so not massively knowledgeable about many things. LOL

But apart from the obvious 100cc and one being newer than the other what are the differences between the two please.


Nick.


CBF600 - More power/less fuel economy

CBF500 - Less Power/more fuel economy

The 600 is the better bike, it has better brakes and probably better suspension, however it costs more to buy and to run.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Done my mod 1 training on a cbf 500 and did not like the bike at all.Even for a new rider i felt sluggish and boring.WITH not overly expiring brakes or handling .you could tell it was designed mainly for commuting.So for the mod 2 i used the cbf 600.What a total different machine it was smoother to ride.Alot better in traffic brakes and suspension felt modern and precise compared to the 500.And much much better on the open road.So if was me id buy the 600 no questions asked.. Very Happy

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PostPosted: 16:06 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know its not the same bikes, but in a way they are similar - I have an old 1994 CB500 and a 2001 CBR600FY - one twin, one four. Anyway, when it comes to fuel economy they are both pretty much the same, used at real road speeds, although the CBR600 is clearly a damn sight faster when you open it up.

Runing costs might be less for the 500 too, so I'd check insurance etc beforehand. I have to get rid of one soon on the bosses orders, and I'm still torn as to which I prefer.

Ride both first.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the 'layman's term' replies folks. Very Happy Feel a bit more knowledgeable on the basic differences now.

But where would a Hornet 600 fit into the mix.?

Thanks again, Nick.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick_Giles wrote:
Thanks for the 'layman's term' replies folks. Very Happy Feel a bit more knowledgeable on the basic differences now.

But where would a Hornet 600 fit into the mix.?

Thanks again, Nick.


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PostPosted: 09:52 - 17 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: CBF 500 Vs CBF 600 Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
The CBF600 is a 'naked' sports-bike,


No it isn't, it is a naked commuter bike.

The CB600F is the hornet, which could be loosely described as a naked sports bike.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 17 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: CBF 500 Vs CBF 600 Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
The CBF600 is a 'naked' sports-bike,


No it isn't, it is a naked commuter bike.

The CB600F is the hornet, which could be loosely described as a naked sports bike.


The CBF and CB-F are pretty close in design and performance, the Hornet having some more top end poke, but the kerb weights and i suspect the handling will be similar.

The cbf6 will be sporty for the novice so I see where mike is coming from.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 18 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: CBF 500 Vs CBF 600 Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
The CBF600 is a 'naked' sports-bike,


DonnyBrago wrote:
No it isn't, it is a naked commuter bike.

The CB600F is the hornet, which could be loosely described as a naked sports bike.


Temeluchus wrote:
The CBF and CB-F are pretty close in design and performance, the Hornet having some more top end poke, but the kerb weights and i suspect the handling will be similar.

The cbf6 will be sporty for the novice so I see where mike is coming from.


Actually, Donny is right. I was confuddled by Hondas ever contrary nomenclature!

My CB750F2 is fifteen years and a couple of technology ages different to the CB750FII.. they DO so love bamboozling us with their badging, dont they?

I did think I was talking about the Hornet, until I checked and there are two bikes the CB600F 'Hornet' and the CBF600.. detuned 'not quite a Hornet'... with CBF500 'blandness'.

Based on the CBR600 mechanicals, now knowing there are two bikes; both are 'naked' sports-bike variants. Hornet, less de-tuned as a more all-round street-bike; CBF, detuned a little further as a more 'sporty' commuter/newbie bike.
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 18 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hornet is a great bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 21 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've owned a CBF 600 since November last year, my first "big" bike since I passed my test.

I've gone straight from a 125 to this bike and my initial reaction on the test ride was "OMFG IT'S SO FAAASSTTT"

The 2 bikes I had in mind for when I passed my test were the CBF 600 and the Hornet. I was only put off by the Hornet after finding out that it has a piss poor tank range.

I've read that most people were getting 100 miles to a tank, which is no good for my commute. I was perfectly willing to sacrifice power over fuel economy as my bike is my only form of transport, so I needed something with decent MPG.

I can definitely recommend the CBF 600 as a first bike post test. I became used to the power of it after regular riding over a month. It can get you out of trouble quickly. The brakes are perfect, plenty of stopping power from the dual front discs.

The engine is derived from the CBR-600. It's detuned and I find I get most of the usable power between 3k-7k RPM.

So, yes, if it's a naked commuter with a subtle bit of poke you are after, with an MPG to suit commuting, I'd definitely recommend it.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never ridden the 500, but my housemate has a faired CBF600 (06 model with carbs) which I've had a few goes on. He regularly gets over 60mpg when riding sensibly and although the engine is very linear (some may say bland) it is certainly not a slow bike and the handling is very predictable.

The only thing I don't like about it is the very upright riding position, I still prefer a sports-tourer position or even a very lent forward sports bike position if in the mood (and if I could insure one). This might be down to me being 6ft2 with monkey arms.

Basically if you like the riding position then get the 600.
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