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AlexD1990
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Bike for less than £2000 that looks good and goes 65mph+ Reply with quote

A question i posted from a previous thread, any suggestions?
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've already covered this.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardly
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, then. I'll bite.
Most 4T 125s will do ~70mph, tops. So far, all you've told us is what you don't like, not what you do like, apart from some pile o' crap Chinese bike that won't outlast your CBT.
If you're willing to put in the work to keep the Chinese thing going, then so be it; it's no skin off my nose. It will, however, depreciate faster than you can believe.

Are you going to give us any information as to what sort of bike you do like the look of, or are we simply to engage our psychic modules, and hope for the best?
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you're starting the same thread again, i'm just going to paste the same answer here -

If you've got £2k why are you even considering chinese? Surely they are there for people who want the ultimate in cheap transport.

There are so many japanese 125s out there, and so many that look half decent, hold their value, and will actually see 65mph.

I bought a 125 to commute on, it was a Honda CityFly. It was excellent, comfy, didn't look much like a small bike. But, and it's a big but, it was slow and boring. Judging by your attitude you're more than likely going to want to go silly speeds very soon. So why not cut out the middle man and get a big bike? A cheap 500 twin will cost half of that and will go all day long, oh and will probably cost less to insure than a 125 as you'll have a full license.

Or just do what i did, get bored of the 500 twin and get a Ninja to commute on! Cool
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Errr CC?

125?
500?

I may not be able to answer your question, but i'm sure the people who can will need more info than under £2000

because i'm sure there's a lot of choice... and that a decent 125 should do 65 (although probably not IRL)
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR125s may be skinny, but they handle well.

TW125
DR125
EN125
GS125
AR125
BN125
CG125
TDR125
TZR125
XR125
CLR125

Honestly...just type 125 into ebay bikes and take a look at the jap stuff. MOST will hit 65, the gay cruisers may not.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£2K?
Tests Cost £121.50 more than training.
Bit of training? Prep lesson for each mod, maybe £30 each, up t a full course at maybe £300.... £150 'loss' on buying almost ANY 125 that will let you get tests on, maybe another £50 to cash in the insurance to upgrade....

That's roughly 'about' £250-£500 to 'comfortably' get a FULL LICENCE

And can be 'done' 'Comfortably' in maybe three to six months....

AND you have the use of the 125 in the meantime, to get about and practice for tests.

And leaves you £1400 ish to go look for something with AS MUCH style, or performance as your balls and your budget will allow.

Being Budget Conciouse; Suzuki GS500; 'nice' one could be picked up for around the £800 - £1000 mark, and insurance on them is likely to be within a few quid of 125 premium; fuel ecconomy withing a nadgers, and the maintenence, possibly a bit 'more' than long term running a well looked after 125, but likely to be lower than trying to keep a hard worked 125 money pit in service.

For something slightly more inspiring; sportier SV650. Likely to still be less to insure than an RS125 'prilla on L's, be faster, than a de-restricted one, and infinitely more reliable, while being a much better 'all-round' motorcycle.

But these are merely a couple of more 'sensible' suggestions for you in budget.

Motrcycling offers a veritable shmorghus board of bikes to choose from and sample; from the humble super bus-fare beating Honda CB200 Benley, the Honda Gold-Wing, super-tourer, with all manner of cruisers, dirt-bikes, street-bikes, and sports-bikes in the middle.

Why think so 'small' as to not look beyond a 125...

Which at the end of the day, is a bike that only does two things; provide a training & test tool, to get the licence that lets you have anything you want, or is a super-cheap bus-fare beater for the really econnomy minded, who wont ride at more than 50mph, becouse saving pennies is more important than going quick.

Bottom line, for a 125, the Yamaha YBR125, ininspiring as its specs and styling may be; represents an optimum, as a training & test tool.

£1250 +/- gets you something three or four years old with a nice fresh MOT, and a buy price half the show-room price tag, but still with more than half the expected service life still in it; ready to ride, and nice enough to ride nicely, and prove reliable and hassle free. That makes no compromises in being easy to ride and do all you need by way of motorcycle gymnastics to get your licence, for any daft ideas of style or speed, and which, licence in your pocket, least hassle, least risk, least cost; will sell very readily for as close as is possible to what you paid, and let you go get something FAR more inspiring or useful to ride.

THINK BIG

And don't limit yourself by some daft idea that you HAVE to get a 125 that will do ALL you ever want a motorbike to do.... nope... ALL a 125 has to do is help you get a licence, so you can ride the bike that WILL do all you ever want a motorbike to do.... better still, sample the shmorgus board and have some fun!
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Lots of stuff


This man knows what he is talking about. You want yourself a decent commuter style bike then get yourself through your license and get yourself a proper commuter like a Hornet or a Bandit.

What would you prefer? Honestly? And really think about it....

A 125 that will max out at around 65-70 but will put that much stress on the engine it will be screaming like a banshee and vibrating like your girlfriends favourite sex toy causing serious tingly feelings for long after you get off the bike.

Or.

A 600CC that pushes out a good fuel economy, is cheap on parts and reasonable on insurance and will sit at 70mph comfortably all day with the engine purring away gently with no stress and very little vibration.

I know what I would chose but then thats why I upgraded from my 125 onto a 1000cc bike. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That guy again wrote:
Bike for less than £2000 that looks good and goes 65mph+


GS500F, now buy any old 125 Japanese-branded bike and pass your test.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
That guy again wrote:
Bike for less than £2000 that looks good and goes 65mph+


GS500F, now buy any old 125 Japanese-branded bike and pass your test.


My money's on him starting another thread since he doesn't like the answers in this one, either.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
Lots of stuff


This man knows what he is talking about.

If only I could be bothered to read it ...
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a short post in Mike terms. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 15 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£2000?

Buy yourself a chinese bike for £1100 and then spend £900 on a nice TW125 for when the other bike breaks.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 16 Feb 2012    Post subject: £2000 Reply with quote

Bought a brand new CBF 2011 in white, it will hit 65 and stay there, but that's about it! If the elements are in your favour you might see a "real" 75 out of it, but its a commuter 125 4T.

Been riding the CBF125 for just under a year now, and its just starting to get boring, that's why I'm getting rid of it (btw if your interested in a CBF 2011 white model with 2.5K miles on the clock for about £1000, PM me)

I think riding a 125 for at least a year is a good idea, the Americans seem to be very good at jumping on large CC bikes and wreaking them (as countless youtube videos will prove) Although I have not "dropped" this CBF I did on my old 09 model one so a cheap 125 second hand commuter is the way to go in my experiences.

In terms of looks, once its been through a clean and WAX the white really shines and It does not look like a bad bike, just not a stand out ether. (that's my excuse for not washing it, I swear Laughing )

Honestly I wouldn't worry about top speed and looking good on a 125, just use it to get a feel for things and don't fret when its likely to get dropped once or twice.

But an ol CG in good condition or a CBF is my recommendation.

If you want something to de-restrict once you passed your test, grab yourself a RS125, but be prepared to maintain by da book!

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PostPosted: 14:13 - 16 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Thats a short post in Mike terms. Laughing


He's making a effort for shorter ones, but when the L plater learner threads pop up, he can't help himself. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 16 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: £2000 Reply with quote

Scootaloo wrote:
the Americans seem to be very good at jumping on large CC bikes and wreaking them


Heh, I recall reading an article making that very point, that 16 year olds with zero riding experience go into dealers, get told, "You'll be bored of a 600 in a month, get a man's bike," put down $100 deposit, jump on a ZXZRZ1000RRRR wearing shorts, sandals and a grin... and then bin it a hundred yards down the road.

There are plenty of flaws in our system, but I'm not sure the (traditional) US "License? We don' need no steenkin' license" regime is doing their riders many favours.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 16 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: £2000 Reply with quote

It's so true!

Every-time I see a video of some prick about to wreak a beautiful machine it makes my blood boil, they could of sent it to me at least, I would of been more than happy to trade them for my CBF125 Very Happy

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PostPosted: 11:58 - 18 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: £2000 Reply with quote

Scootaloo wrote:

Every-time I see a video of some prick about to wreak a beautiful machine it makes my blood boil.
youtube is worryingly full of idiots jumping on and crashing away.

It does make me cringe, but the plus side is that it might deter them to get on a bike again and ruin another, or they might get on again and successfully take themselves out of the gene pool.

As for the 'Alpha', have you thought about a CG125?

It's a cheap manual Jap 125 that will hold it's value and is crash friendly of sorts.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 18 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: Bike for less than £2000 that looks good and goes 65mph+ Reply with quote

AlexD1990 wrote:
A question i posted from a previous thread, any suggestions?


My suggestion is get over the fact it's not going to 'look pretty' because it's a 125 you're after. It's a 125. It's a commuter tool. It's supposed to be purposeful and cheap, hardy and dependable - not poncey and fragile.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 18 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As posted on the last thread, Yamaha XT125. arry is right, it's meant to be purposeful & dependable. Once you've got a full license you can then find the 'look' of bike that floats your boat, same for alot of people when they start driving. Get something affordable that'll work and build your confidence, further down the line you can then be selective.

To be honest if I had a £2k budget it would be full license all the way, wouldn't bother with a 125 at all. The money left over will buy a descent, 500/600........Reaching 65mph will be no issue. Wink
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 18 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: Bike for less than £2000 that looks good and goes 65mph+ Reply with quote

arry wrote:
AlexD1990 wrote:
A question i posted from a previous thread, any suggestions?


My suggestion is get over the fact it's not going to 'look pretty' because it's a 125 you're after. It's a 125. It's a commuter tool. It's supposed to be purposeful and cheap, hardy and dependable - not poncey and fragile.
Couldn't necessarily agree, if you look at the broader range of 125's in showroom's today they are geared towards a more aesthetically pleased audience.

Derbi GPR.
YZFR125
CBR125
NSR125
Aprillia RS125
Youngest Cagiva Mito.

On the flip side to this, there are bikes designed to look 'crap' and 'low budget', hence no serious plastics on the CG or YBR. That's no even considering 'ready to crash' types like a DT125.

They make 125's of various designs to appeal to kid's of varying taste's, I'm not sure it's fair to dismiss a kid wanting a trendy looking thing just because he's almost guaranteed to fall off, we all did it and it didn't put us off crying then cursing over our broken fairings and buying a bigger tartier model.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally i would recommend getting a CG or similar to get you're confidence and slow speed skills up to scratch, then looking at sitting your full bike test, there is NO bike that is going to look good with L plates on it, and even if you were to buy an RS125 or the like - think it'll look cool when a lad of similar age parks his R6 next to it as he's got his licence...
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