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McfcChris94
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: What armour should i look for? Leather or Textile? Reply with quote

Quick question really, im a new biker with no experience at all, so what would you suggest Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leather = better protection.

Textile = more practical, waterproof, can wear clothes underneath.


If you can afford it, I'd recommend getting a set of leathers and a set of textiles. Best of both worlds then.


I personally went for RST for both, great armour and protection, very good quality but at a very reasonable price. Was about 1/2 the price of similar Alpinestars stuff, but also the RST comes with fitted back protector too.


You definitely wanna make sure all the key joint areas are protected (elbows, knees, shoulders) and ideally back and hips as well. Chest protection would be a bonus, as ribs break easy and behind them are lots of vital organs
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

at the moment, i can only afford one set so what is the best option, bike is to be purchased at end of march if that would help? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Textiles are always good all rounders, be careful though the textile jacket i got makes me sweat buckets on vaguely warm days, and thats with the thermal liner taken out Shocked, by march time il need to invest in a vented leather one Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do think textile is a better option at the moment

should i completely discount leathers for the time being, or would it be worth trying some on and choosing my personal preference/talk to the people in store? Embarassed
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

on a 125 I'd just get textiles. I cannot imagine decent textiles being unable to withstand 60mph crash.

Leathers seem great idea in good weather, but with textiles, you can often fit clothes underneath so commuting to work, I just take textiles off and I'm ready.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon Mike wrote a piece about leather v textiles a while ago. Leathers give the best protection against abrasion but textiles have more padding.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can just afford one, then I'd go for a decent set of textiles.

As is the case with ALL protective biking gear, BUY THE BEST YOU CAN AFFORD. That doesn't necessarily mean go buy the most expensive brand you can afford, but buy the best fitting and best protecting clothing that fits in your budget.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently wear textiles or armoured jeans but having seen some pretty eye opening results in RiDE I'll be leathering up at least the bottom half this season.

Hit up Gumtree and eBay for used gear, you can get some decent bargains if you're patient.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would always recommend leathers for the abrasion resistance, which is really what you are being protected from - neither leather nor textile will help you if you smash into a kerb/car/lamp-post at any great speed, so try to get something that offers a good protection from the tarmac grating you to shreds.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In short TEXTILE

Ben-B wrote:
Leather = better protection.
Textile = more practical, waterproof, can wear clothes underneath.

HUGE over simplification. Leathers, MAY offer more abrasion resistance, but that's all the nature of the material offers. Meanwhile the weather 'protection' they offer would tend not to be so great, so all depends on how you rate 'better'.

Ultimately; protective riding gear, only works within fairly narrow limits.

Low impact 'spill' the minimal protection offered by jeans and a jumper may be as much as you need to save off grazes; at the point where you are being crushed by hard unyelding objects like lamp-posts or lorries, severity of your injuries wont be much effected by what you wear.

As said before, Leather only has 'significant' advantage against abrasion injury; which is most useful in a long high-speed sliding scenario, as most often encountered on a race track.

On the road, we need protection from a much wider variety of 'stuff' both impact, and abrasion, as well as piercing and cutting... but those tend to only be needed in the event of an accident.

Clothing also provided protection from weather; and in this country that bit of protection may seem less critical, effecting merely your comfort... but you'lll apreciate it a LOT more often than you do crash protection.... we hope!

But that 'comfort' DOES actually provide far more CRASH protection that you imedietly give it credit.

If you are comfy, and unconstricted, offers to sort of mobility that can actually SAVE you from crashing....

If you are hot, inside a pair of leathers, and tight wrist band is constricting blood flow to your fingers, you are likely to be agitated, iritable and not so likely to spot hazards, and with slightly numb hands unable to respond as well to avoid it when you do.

If you are shivering with cold, again, leather over your legs, and numb feet, your attension levels will be low, and when you spot that dumb-cluck pull out, your reaction and feel on the brake pedal, isn't going to be as good.

As far as I'm concerned; for a Newbie on a Budget, getting the most ALL-ROUND protection, for as little outlay as is needed, textiles offer an awfully good starting point.

Snowie is looking at a new riding suit at the moment; You can get a Textile Riding Jacket with armour for as little as £30, Trousers for £20. From more reputable retailers you may be looking at around £120 for a 'decent' pair of trousers and Jacket, which is only just getting you into the region of 'Budget' leathers, where the added abrasion resistance may or may not be much if any better depending on hide and stitching quality, and you have a less versatile outfit, that probably offers less all-rund protection, for the dubiouse benefit.

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PostPosted: 22:38 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you put this new found In short TEXTILE at the beginning of your posts. Idea Cool
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can put tldr version on the top of every elongated post. Idea Thumbs Up Very Happy








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PostPosted: 23:41 - 19 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
HUGE over simplification.


I know, but go into too much detail, people get bored and don't read.

For someone who's new to riding he's just asking for things to be put in fairly simple terms I imagine.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you hit that road it's going to hurt like buggery anyway. Moreso if end up replicating a squash match.

Best protection: Don't fall off (duuhh).
But really, just don't be afraid of looking a prat in order to be sure not to slip.

Buy what you can afford and what is comfortable.
Then rely on your head more than armour.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 23 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it's worth, I wear a pair of leathers and if the weather's shite, looks like it'll be shite or I don't want windchill, I'll throw on a pair of thin waterproofs. You can store them under the seat if you need to and are £40 max. I use trousers and a long jacket designed for walking/hiking and they keep me perfectly dry, miles better than the Frank Thomas textiles I had. Best of both worlds Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 24 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reid wrote:
For what it's worth, I wear a pair of leathers and if the weather's shite, looks like it'll be shite or I don't want windchill, I'll throw on a pair of thin waterproofs. You can store them under the seat if you need to and are £40 max. I use trousers and a long jacket designed for walking/hiking and they keep me perfectly dry, miles better than the Frank Thomas textiles I had. Best of both worlds Very Happy
Slightly off topic but, I have a set of Frank Thomas textiles and have spent hours in the wind and rain and sleet and whatever else the weather over here can throw at me but, I have to say, they have kept me surprisingly bone dry. Have had a couple of low speed spills too and they have done a good job of protecting my shoulders, knees and elbows.

Never worn leathers so, I can't comment on which is best.
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