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wilzon3r3
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Hi Ppls.. Im a new rider, looking for some advice & tips Reply with quote

Hi Everyone,

My name is Ben. & im a new rider & owner of a Derbi Senda SM 50 Limited Edition 2005. Smile
Im enjoying the ride so far, although a bit slow on top speed.. 50mph :/

If you can, give me some advice or tips on the bike etc. Would be great!!

Thanks, Ben.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that a 50cc?

There's your problem Thumbs Up

Looks nice though.

Hang around the forums a while, you'll pick up tips like a katamari Laughing Drooling
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are riding illegally anyway, might as well get a 125 Laughing

Tips and advice, keep the bike in good nick, keep the 2 stroke oil topped up and change the gearbox oil occasionally.

Have fun Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah its a 50cc .. its a bit of a chicken chaser!
But im going to be puttin a 70cc kit on it with new jets and arrow exhaust! That should hopefully get it moving a bit quicker!! Thumbs Up

& how am i riding illegal??

Cheers, Ben.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilzon3r3 wrote:
Yeah its a 50cc .. its a bit of a chicken chaser!
But im going to be puttin a 70cc kit on it with new jets and arrow exhaust! That should hopefully get it moving a bit quicker!! Thumbs Up

& how am i riding illegal??

Cheers, Ben.


Sorry, assuming you are 16 as you are on a 50.

Riding something capable of more than 31mph and larger than 50cc is illegal at 16.
Also, going up to a 70cc would be even more so Laughing

Also, your current setup hitting 50mph would say its fully derestricted as it is.

If you are older than 16, grab a 125 and do your test Wink
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol .. Wrong assumption mate Wink im 20, and I've only grabbed the little hair dryer to get to work and back really because i work 12miles away from home now! (New Job)

Only reason i didnt get a 125 is because i found this one cheap and i needed it within the next week because my lift to work was legging it to another job!

I've had the CBT 1 and half yrs and i done it on a 125 geared so im fully legal to ride it. And also my understanding is im legal to put a 70cc kit on it as long as i claim it on the insurance of cors!

It is fully restricted, has 6 gears.. 1 down 5 up. if you look online at the Derbi Senda 50 SuperMotard then it will tell you it comes out of the shops reaching a top speed of 50mph.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilzon3r3 wrote:
And also my understanding is im legal to put a 70cc kit on it as long as i claim it on the insurance of cors!


And notify DVLA of vehcile capacity change.

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It is fully restricted, has 6 gears.. 1 down 5 up. if you look online at the Derbi Senda 50 SuperMotard then it will tell you it comes out of the shops reaching a top speed of 50mph.


A 50cc will only ever reach 45/50...maybe 55 if fully totally derestricted. A 50cc is restricted to reach the learner law of 31mph, if it exceeds that, its been derestricted.

Fair enough for the age/price range/quick bike thing... mostly 16 year olds spouting guff about how they do 70 Wink
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumbs Up I'll just say Welcome bud, if you take the time to troll the forum you'll find mostly what your looking for, if you cant just ask, but be specific, it helps us. stay loose and safe Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh so it may have been de-resrticted then :/ ok, best let the insurance know i spose!

& yeah well most 16 year olds think the riding a bloody R1 when really there on the smallest chicken chasin sh*t they can get their hands on! lol

I know mines only a little 50 but as i said, im going to tweek it a little with a performance exhaust, 70cc kit, new jets, racing clutch and couple other bits. Just so i get that little bit more out of it!

Any advice at all on the bike? Or just for a new rider in general really?

Cheers mate.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Bambi, nice to meet you mate.

Will keep that in mind! Smile Thumbs Up

Take care.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilzon3r3 wrote:
Any advice at all on the bike? Or just for a new rider in general really?

Cheers mate.


Yea, just look after the bike, give it some warm up time before riding it and ragging it. Keep an eye on the tyres and oil, change the gearbox oil every now and then and try not ti crash it Thumbs Up

Go careful on wet roads, I've noticed they seem a bit slippery lately even in the car...so watch how much brake you use Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok mate cheers. I did give it 15mins warm up time this morning before i left, when the bugger finally started (big frost this mornin).
& in all honesty i haven't ragged it and im not planning to unless i get the 70 kit etc... like i said.

Im still learning the roads at the moment, so taking it steady. Thumbs Up Smile

& as for tyres its got two brand new ones on sooo thats all good Wink oil was topped up the day i got it.. basically everything has been done. As you said, just keep an eye on things and be careful!

Where you from bud? what do you (anihilate the roads with) ride? lol
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down south in Kent.

GSXR750 Y model and a CB250 currently.

Erm, check the oil daily, 2 stroke oil gets consumed whilst riding.
As for warming up, I'd get the bike started on choke for about 2-3 minutes and work the choke off, put helmet n gloves on and ride it. Idling a 2 stroke for 15 minutes will foul the plug and will need ragging to clear it.

Best bet, start it on choke, ride gently for a few miles, start increasing the revs and feel free to redline 2nd>4th gear to clear the coked up crap out Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so you're not riding without a license, but your insurance is doubtful at best.

Rather than pouring money into a ped that will cause you nothing but problems - legally, technically, and when insuring and selling it on - then why not pass it on to a 16 year old, get a 125 and pass your tests?
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oryt cool, I live in South Somerset.

Very nice.. My mate has a Bandit with a GSXR 750 engine in! Its fookin stunning!! & sounds like a beaut. Thumbs Up

& yeah thats true.. will check the oil later on then.

&+ Okie dokie then, will do that later on my ride home from work.
Cheers Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Roger, why is my insurance doubtful??

& yeah, i understand totally what you mean. But like i said in a previous post up top.. i needed a bike asap to get to and from work because my lift was legging it to another job. I was ideally looking at a 125 but this bike came up quicker and had everything i need just for a little commute of 10miles to work everyday.

I will be getting my full license for the summer hopefully Thumbs Up

but for now this little chicken chase will do.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilzon3r3 wrote:
Very nice.. My mate has a Bandit with a GSXR 750 engine in! Its fookin stunning!! & sounds like a beaut. Thumbs Up


Got any photos of that? Can imagine thats a PITA to fit Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't at the mo mate.. But i'll get some tonight and put them up here for you tomorrow. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilzon3r3 wrote:
Hi Roger, why is my insurance doubtful??


You've insured it as a moped, doubtless with no modifications listed.

If it does more than 31mph, then it's not a moped, and it's probably been modified by a previous owner.

You'll probably be all right, but be aware that some Plod Squads do run the occasional "Operation Pedboi Sweep", pull over peds and put them on a rolling road - you can opt to defer such a test, but most pedbois won't know that.

I doubt whether they'd care so much about chasing up a purely insurance issue for a 20 year old on a proper provisional (and I highly doubt they could get a conviction), but it's up to you to determine whether the potential risk and hassle factor of riding around on a derestricted ped is worth it.

Anyway, best way to make it a non-issue is to get licensed up. There's nothing hard in the tests and the sooner you get them done, the better.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i know what you mean.. Well i best take it to my friends dad who is a bike mechanic. He'd be able to give it the full check over and tell me if anything has been modified. Thumbs Up

Then if it has i WILL DEFINITELY declare it on insurance, no point being bollocked by the police and possibly getting fines etc.. for a crappy 50cc bike lol

But yesss, i think i may have to fork out some £££ for my license next month.. Would be best bet! Smile

Cheers Roger.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres the BEAST Paddy.. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit- with GSXR 750 Engine Wink Razz
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What year GSXR engine... its still carbed, looks like a stock B6 engine Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all honesty.. I wouldnt have a clue mate! I can find out, will text him in a sec and let you know.

Also is it tricky to fit a 70cc kit on a bike? (my derbi senda supermotard 50cc)
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 20 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilzon3r3 wrote:
In all honesty.. I wouldnt have a clue mate! I can find out, will text him in a sec and let you know.

Also is it tricky to fit a 70cc kit on a bike? (my derbi senda supermotard 50cc)


Tricky.. not really. I could probably do it in an afternoon I suppose but I've never really increased capacity on a bike before. There will be a million guides online on how to do it Thumbs Up
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