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unknowndude00...
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: New Bike for 16 year old (UK) Reply with quote

Just finished my Bike driving test, and got my license, I am only 16, so I need a nice little ride to get me used to riding a bike, and only being 50cc.

I really don't like the Moped and Scooter look, and was wondering if there are any more stylish looking motorbikes for me, that are 50cc.

I am looking at a range of money that is £700 - £1,400.

Also insurance cost would help as well. Very Happy

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2011-Derbi-Senda-DRD-Evo-50cc-/120863459588?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1c24060904
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBT is not a test (you don't pass or fail)... So don't forget the L plates Wink
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Derbi-senda-drd-pro-50-white-edition-/150761308219?_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DI%252BUA%26otn%3D4%26pmod%3D120863459588%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6606853441122014527
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither of those derbi's are actual legal for a 16 year old as they are both derestricted...
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's 16, buying a de-restricted bike just saves him the bother of doing it himself Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget the look, just get a 50cc legal scooter and put up with it for the few months till you're seventeen and can legally ride a 125.

What's important right now for you is gaining experience and road craft and becoming a safe rider.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget the look, just get a 50cc legal scooter and put up with it for the few months till you're seventeen and can legally ride a 125.

What's important right now for you is gaining experience and road craft and becoming a safe rider.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bLiXeY wrote:
He's 16, buying a de-restricted bike just saves him the bother of doing it himself Very Happy


As unlikely as it may be, penalties for getting caught are not worth it (minimum 6 points, invalid insurance).

Maybe I'm being too straight up about it all but I think encouraging someone to ignore and purposely break the law immediately as they start out is a bad way to go, you might as well tell him not to bother with tax and insurance too while you're at it.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingstondavo wrote:
bLiXeY wrote:
He's 16, buying a de-restricted bike just saves him the bother of doing it himself Very Happy


As unlikely as it may be, penalties for getting caught are not worth it (minimum 6 points, invalid insurance).

Maybe I'm being too straight up about it all but I think encouraging someone to ignore and purposely break the law immediately as they start out is a bad way to go, you might as well tell him not to bother with tax and insurance too while you're at it.


No you are right. Encouraging a youngster to ride illegally would be irresponsible of me, I was being a little flippant I admit, so ignore my silliness OP.

The front sprocket will unlikely make much difference anyway, as I understand there isn't really the power to get any benefit from changing the gearing...and it does say that they have the orig exhaust, so he could have swapped that back to factory.

Being that the law states a moped must not exceed 31mph or have an engine size bigger than 50cc, it's very likely that from the factory, a lot of 50cc bikes travel faster than 31mph, making them illegal by default anyway!


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PostPosted: 22:07 - 26 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingstondavo wrote:
you might as well tell him not to bother with tax and insurance too while you're at it.


Well I might as well tell him to kill his parents too ey? Or would that be going too far? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.tntracing.co.uk/product_view.php?id=7227

This is the bike I am looking at, at the moment. Opinions plzzz
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you wanted something that you could ride on the road?

You'd have to make that road legal then register it with DVLA...which of course you just wouldn't do, as it's be pointless. You'd go and buy a road legal 50cc bike.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Opinion that name sounds like a small kid having a tantrum seriously get a run of the mill cheap scooter if you really want a bike right now or wait till you are 17 then get a 125cc motorbike.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aprilia-TUONO-RS50-Sports-Touring-50cc-2005-/330693920382?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4cfee4c67e#ht_1235wt_1396

You like? Stylewise at least Smile
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm 16 aswell, (and stuck with a 50cc bike). I had the choice, either of a MBK F1 Nitro, or a Motorhispania RX50. Google them if you wish, but you will find that the MBK is a fairly nice scooter (if there is such a thing), and the Motorhispania is a relatively nice looking bike, its 50cc and so road legal, and looks just like a sports bike. Guess what I took?
Thats right, the MBK! I have to be honest - a 50cc bike is there to learn on, you drop a scooter, and chances are its not its first dropping, scooters nowadays are expected to be dropped, and so built better for it! The Motorhispania on the other hand, drop it, and not only will the value go down exponentially, but youll break clutch levers, brake levers, possibly a foot on the way down, along with mirrors and other similar things. I'll put money on it that everybody on this forum has tumbled off their bike at some point in their lives. I'm still yet to have that tumble, but i know i would rather fall on a scooter, where my legs are infront of me, and so wont be taking the weight of myself and the bike when i do come off. With the hispania, chances are, whats left of my legs will be getting scraped off the floor like raspberry jam!

Let me just mention aswell, insurance for the hispania: £2450 A year. For the MBK: £318.
But then again, its your choice entirely. Your going to break the damn thing within a year anyway, and its only for a year. Buy a cheap ped (i know their unsightly and all) and put up with it for a year, get some knowledge, and spend your money on a decent 125!

Oh, and sorry for the MASSIVE reply!
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hay im 16 and had this problem when i was first starting out, what you really need for your first bike is a scooter even if you only have it a few months. i really do advize the honda x8r-x i believe my insurance 2prty fire and theft was around £250 and you can pick the scooter up for around £600 dead standard. i rode it restricted for 3 months then when i trusted myself i deristricted it and had a new bike in affect. if you can get your hands on one i really do advice a old yamaha fs1e. mines had a toth of the front but still sits happily on the flats at 45 mph and sails up hills like a dream, does around 80 miles to the tank aswell.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

VehoDiscovery wrote:
, but youll break clutch levers, brake levers, possibly a foot on the way down, along with mirrors and other similar things.


You won't break a foot if you are wearing proper motorcycle boots. They don't have to be long, I have some short boots that I use for commuting and they are completely solid, ankle protection and solid soles and toe caps.

Wearing correct gear is a good habit to get into, saw so many idiots in tshirts with no gloves on, on scooters at the weekend
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fs1e woody wrote:
hay im 16 and...

... i rode it restricted for 3 months then when i trusted myself i deristricted it and had a new bike in affect.


Correct, assuming you are still sixteen you now have a motorcycle which you are neither licenced or insured to ride on a public road.
I assume you've written to the DVLA telling them you've change the licence category of the bike?

You do realise that if you get caught you'll get fined, and maybe loose the bike? Of course you'll have to tell your insurers about your motoring convictions in future (another offence if you don't) and as a result your premiums will rocket for at least the next five years.

You might trust yourself, I doubt any of the responsible adults on this forum would trust you (I include the 'legal' sixteen year olds in that category).
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother if it was me. A year is not a long amount of time.

I'd save my money and by a banging 125 when i hit 17 Thumbs Up
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