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R62012
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: What way should I go about passing my test? (aged 20) Reply with quote

I passed my CBT when 17 and had a Yamaha RD 125 LC but got laid off from work and obviously couldn't afford a bike, had few bits and bobs since then but nothing perm like now jobs wise. I'm 21 in November, what is my best option doing 33bhp A2 now does that mean when it's my 21st it auto goes away or wait until 21 and pass then DAS and just ride a 125 again until then?

I'm after the R6 '99 / '00 model for my first big bike after passing.

Thanks, Jonathan.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't pass this year you wont be doing DAS until you're 24.

Get it done, this year. Anyway you can.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 21 in November, should I just do it then?

@ Will them three months give me enough time to get them passed?

I will get my theory done as soon as possible I didn't know about this law changing, is the 2 years 33bhp restriction just staying the same as well if I was to just pass it when I'm 20?
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's a post in general chat about the new rules, if you don't do it this year then you will be restricted until your 24, there is no restriction that then expires under the new rules, it all involves extra tests at different ages up until you do your full licence at 24. if your confident you can pass in the bad weather we'll have in november then do das then but id be having your mod1 booked for the day you turn 21 and your mod 2 ready booked just after as you have to wait a set amount of time if you fail.

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PostPosted: 23:15 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: What way should I go about passing my test? (aged 20) Reply with quote

R62012 wrote:
I'm 21 in November, what is my best option doing 33bhp A2 now does that mean when it's my 21st it auto goes away or wait until 21 and pass then DAS and just ride a 125 again until then?


You've got two options really:
Get a 125 and get a lot of practise in, when it comes to November, hire a schools bike for a few hours to get used to the bike and then sit the tests (DAS).

Get a 125 and pass now and then you'll have a 2 year 33bhp restriction. If money permits you could always pass this test so you can ride a bigger bike now and then take the DAS afterwards in November to remove the restriction.

If you do go the 33bhp restriction route (aka the standard test) then the restriction will not run out on your 21st birthday. You have to wait 2 years like everyone else.

R62012 wrote:
I'm after the R6 '99 / '00 model for my first big bike after passing.


It's cheaper for me to insure the R1 than the R6. But AFAIK they'll both be rubbish on a 33bhp restriction.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomp1983 wrote:
there's a post in general chat about the new rules, if you don't do it this year then you will be restricted until your 24, there is no restriction that then expires under the new rules, it all involves extra tests at different ages up until you do your full licence at 24. if your confident you can pass in the bad weather we'll have in november then do das then but id be having your mod1 booked for the day you turn 21 and your mod 2 ready booked just after as you have to wait a set amount of time if you fail.

chris


Thanks for your input, what I'm going to do is do my test now on a 125cc and then do the accelerated access so then at least even if I fail (which I hope not) then I won't have been effected by the laws and will in essence be on full power by 22. I'm going for my theory soon, have a couple of weeks revising and then getting it out of the way then contact my local place and get a course booked to pass both Mod 1 and 2 and then hopefully pass and ride full power.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: What way should I go about passing my test? (aged 20) Reply with quote

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R62012 wrote:
I'm 21 in November, what is my best option doing 33bhp A2 now does that mean when it's my 21st it auto goes away or wait until 21 and pass then DAS and just ride a 125 again until then?


You've got two options really:
Get a 125 and get a lot of practise in, when it comes to November, hire a schools bike for a few hours to get used to the bike and then sit the tests (DAS).

Get a 125 and pass now and then you'll have a 2 year 33bhp restriction. If money permits you could always pass this test so you can ride a bigger bike now and then take the DAS afterwards in November to remove the restriction.

If you do go the 33bhp restriction route (aka the standard test) then the restriction will not run out on your 21st birthday. You have to wait 2 years like everyone else.

R62012 wrote:
I'm after the R6 '99 / '00 model for my first big bike after passing.


It's cheaper for me to insure the R1 than the R6. But AFAIK they'll both be rubbish on a 33bhp restriction.


Thanks as well definitely want it done before the new laws coming in they are a load of bollocks!

So I pass my theory test, then my next step is to get a few lessons book Mod 1 and pass hopefully, few more lessons book Mod 2? Pass?

I'll be getting the R6 from a friend relatively cheap and I love the earlier R6's, want an R1 in a few years after some road experience I won't run before I can walk it's fine.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 27 Feb 2012    Post subject: Re: What way should I go about passing my test? (aged 20) Reply with quote

R62012 wrote:
So I pass my theory test, then my next step is to get a few lessons book Mod 1 and pass hopefully, few more lessons book Mod 2? Pass?


Is your CBT still valid? They only last 2 years you know.

The first step is the theory test yes, pass this before or after your CBT; it doesn't matter.

You don't really "need" any lessons for Mod1, though they can help some people with confidence issues. If you download this layout (PDF) then find a space somewhere to set it up with cones/bottles you can get all the practise you need. I set up different parts of it at a time just to make sure I could do it all Thumbs Up

On the test just make sure you remember to treat is as a public road; mirror checks, shoulder checks, etc. It's only £15.50 a shot, so cheaper than lessons. Thumbs Up

For Mod 2 you could take a few lessons - but again you can do it without. I did mine without. Depends on what you feel comfortable with though.

R62012 wrote:
I'll be getting the R6 from a friend relatively cheap and I love the earlier R6's, want an R1 in a few years after some road experience I won't run before I can walk it's fine.


The R6 is still sprinting for a first big bike. I want an R1 too, but going for a 500 twin at the moment Laughing
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately my CBT ran out as I did that when I was 17 and 20 now.

I will have a look at mock ones online for theory and book that then also book CBT which is around 100 quid and get that out the way.

I was just going to use their bikes to be fair so can't really practice as money is a bit tight at the minute but want my full test done before these stupid god damn laws coming intact.

How much would Mod 1/2 cost if you get lessons and how long do they normally take to pass? I'm not blowing my own trumpet so without being big headed I see no reason why not to pass.

I've seen these week tests and for like £400 or so but does that mean if you don't pass it's another 400 quid...?

I know the R6 is a big bike for my first but I will respect it and get experience first.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theory + Mod1 + Mod2 cost about £121. Your Theory pass is also valid for 2 years.

Some schools offer as much tuition as you need to pass the tests, but you may have to pay extra for bike hire.

£400 is a lot of money to fork out - so check what exactly is included. The test fees might be extra, so that could become £521.

You need to decide if a 125 will do you for the next 4 years, because if you don't pass before the deadline, the cost of getting a full licence is going to cost a lot more - but you might be in a better financial position then. Sticking to a 125 for now, might help if you get offered a job and just need transport.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money is a bit tight and I only get paid monthly, I don't fancy forking out £400+ each time (saying I did fail hopefully I won't), I've been practicing the theory tests online and going to study and revise them for a fortnight before booking mine, do my CBT relatively soon as well get that out the way hopefully will be two ticks in the box.

I've not been on a bike in a little while but I haven't forgotten anything and wasn't one of these normal throttle happy mugs who was going over the limit everywhere I did used to have concentration and common sense, should I book Mod 1 without tests and get a couple or a few for Mod 2 or should I do these week courses where at the end you will have passed both?

I've decided to get it done ASAP on a 125 A2 as I'm still only 20 and then at least the law won't effect me and around November/December try and get my accelerated access done but it wouldn't really be a massive biggie as I will be unrestricted at 22 not 24 and not conflict with these new stupid laws being put in place, I really do feel sympathy for a 17 year old next year real bummer as there seems to be no loopholes around it neither.

Could I have all my test done by the end of next month do you think?
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're that confident, then another option would be:

Arrow CBT
Arrow Theory
Arrow Buy any 125
Arrow Pass 'standard' Mod 1 and Mod 2 on your own bike (no training required) and get an "A <= 25kW" license.
Arrow Chop in the 125 and get a 500+ bike, restricted or 'restricted' down to 25kW/33bhp.
Arrow When you turn 21, rock up on your own bike and do the 'Accelerated Access' (essentially just the standard DAS / 'large' bike test) on it. If they don't ask about the power, you don't tell. If they do ask, well, what they want to hear is that it's 35kW+. To make it look legit, you could have a mate ride it in to the test centre with you as pillion, and then be sure to crack on briskly when road conditions allow.

You've got the up-front costs of getting a 125, but if you buy old and Japanese then you'll get your money back. You won't have to shell out anything to a training school except your CBT.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
If you're that confident, then another option would be:

Arrow CBT
Arrow Theory
Arrow Buy any 125
Arrow Pass 'standard' Mod 1 and Mod 2 on your own bike (no training required) and get an "A <= 25kW" license.
Arrow Chop in the 125 and get a 500+ bike, restricted or 'restricted' down to 25kW/33bhp.
Arrow When you turn 21, rock up on your own bike and do the 'Accelerated Access' (essentially DSA / 'large' bike test) on it. If they don't ask about the power, you don't tell. If they do ask, well, what they want to hear is that it's 35kW+. To make it look legit, you could have a mate ride it in to the test centre with you as pillion, and then be sure to crack on briskly when road conditions allow.

You've got the up-front costs of getting a 125, but if you buy old and Japanese then you'll get your money back. You won't have to shell out anything to a training school except your CBT.


Spot on, no way am I getting trapped with this new law coming in it's such a pain in my honest opinion and will cause nothing but problems, I think the government honestly hate us.

I am busy reading the highway code book and doing mocks online, going to phone the local place up to get my CBT done, do I have to buy a 125 or not? I was thinking on just doing it on theirs to be fair, I wasn't going to get a bike until I had passed (my mates R6) the full test.

How soon can you do Mod 1 and Mod 2 together? I've also been looking on Youtube and the vast majority of Mod 1 is just common sense which a lot is done in your CBT so should have no problems, I think for Mod 2 to kind off guarantee a pass I'll have a couple of lessons, I am confident but this new law has me really got me feeling like Crying or Very sad I was actually going to just wait until I was 21 and do DAS if the earlier post never told me about the law changing I would never have known as well so Thumbs Up for that!

I will do what you say do the restricted 33bhp route so at least then I have a full license and won't be effected but a couple of weeks before my 21st birthday I'll ring up and get them done on bigger bike DAS, thanks very much for everyone helping me.

When I was 19 I was like I'm just going to wait until I'm 21 and do DAS, look at the problems this new law has got me into now lol... the weather is hardly good near my birthday is it neither! Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

R62012 wrote:
How soon can you do Mod 1 and Mod 2 together?


You can do them on the same day. The only problem is that if you fail Mod 1 you will not be allowed to take Mod 2, and you lose your test fee for Mod 2.

What most people do if they're taking them together is book them about 3+ days apart, so that if they fail Mod 1 they can still cancel Mod 2 and get their test fee back. Some people do take them both on the same day; you get man points for doing that. Thumbs Up

I did my theory on about the 8th or 9th of September and passed Mod 2 on the 29th September Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
R62012 wrote:
How soon can you do Mod 1 and Mod 2 together?


You can do them on the same day. The only problem is that if you fail Mod 1 you will not be allowed to take Mod 2, and you lose your test fee for Mod 2.

What most people do if they're taking them together is book them about 3+ days apart, so that if they fail Mod 1 they can still cancel Mod 2 and get their test fee back. Some people do take them both on the same day; you get man points for doing that. Thumbs Up

I did my theory on about the 8th or 9th of September and passed Mod 2 on the 29th September Thumbs Up


I shall do that then, what did you use to revise for your theory test? I've just been googling "theory test practice" and doing some mock ones is there any ones to buy or download?

I just hope to pass everything first time that's all Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

R62012 wrote:
I shall do that then, what did you use to revise for your theory test? I've just been googling "theory test practice" and doing some mock ones is there any ones to buy or download?


If you get one of these books and read it cover to cover, you can't go far wrong. HPT is useless, so just treat it as a computer came and use the HPT simulations you can get for it.

I used "Driving Success All Tests 2011 Edition" for mine. You should be hitting about 50/50 on the questions if you read the above and learn it. Then just practice the HPT over and over until you get the knack for it. Thumbs Up
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