Bike training Rip off

[keggyhander]

Driving along and seeing a couple of learners and their instructor coming the opposite way set me thinking...

When you do your car lessons you have a damned good one to one learning environment.

When you're a wobbly L-Plate rider you usually have to put up with another two of you, all paying the same money as you are. This is wank. You ought to be paying a third each.

Doesn't affect me as I passed my test twenty years ago but it bothered me then and i still don't think it's right.

Or aren't people bothered?

[Daytona Paul]

I am all for doing training 1 - 1

CBT for £356 or 3 day DAS for £798 anyone?

No? OK looks like back to 4 - 1 for CBT and 2 - 1 for DAS then

(3 students on the road with 1 instructor is only allowed during A2 and post test training.

CBT and DAS must only be at a 2 - 1 ratio on road.)
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[Babba]

On the basis that most school's are owned & operated by semi-retired folk with an alternative source of income, then NO, I don't think the learner is being ripped off.

No one's getting rich by running a bike school, if they were then there'd be millions of adverts bombarding you to "earn £30k pa by becoming a riding instructor".

It's hard to break even let alone make a profit, & with twats such as yourself spouting their gobshite, it seems to be a thankless task as well.

[J.M.]

I guess I was the lucky one then, I got my CBT 1-1

Self taught myself on the tests though, so I can't really comment on that.

I would have self-taught driving too, but you can't do unsupervised L-plating, and insurance is a joke!

If I wanted to insure the 850cc car we've got sitting on the driveway (which hits 80 if you're lucky), 6.2k. If I want to insure a 'busa, 5.5k.
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[GrantT]

I paid £30 an hour 1-1 for DAS training, guess I was lucky?

[Hyaon]

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[Daytona Paul]

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[Skudd]

Believe me, unless you are well established with next to zero over heads, any teaching with a vehicle just drain the pockets. The Gross money looks good, but the net. is crap.
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[Hyaon]

Guys who trained me at aintree racecourse I found were genuine lovers of riding and wanted to give me every possible chance of surviving on our lovely roads of today. Whenever I went out on the road for big bike lessons, it was 2 students max. They stopped every now and then, were critical of anything dangerous in our habits. Add the fact I'm deaf and couldn't use any voice comms, they still took me on.

Considering they have to pay for maintainance costs, petrol, bikes, gear, [assume a fee needs to be paid for being a instructor?] managing the books, taking appointments, booking appointments for tests, remembering each student and their riding ability, it is pretty much a fairly high stress managers job in my eyes. If they really are earning 40k a year, I reckon it's deserved.

Course, if a school puts 5 students on the road, many as possible at a time. Then that's pretty clear they are in it for the money.
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[Chris750]

I found das training fine with two students. I only did the morning of the test in training but it gave you time in the spotlight up front being told what your doing wrong. Then a break and time to absorb and pratice this when the other student is up front under observation.

It also gave you a chance to see someone else riding and learn from there mistakes before you had a chance to make them.
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