'Kin hell...mind where you're riding, huh chaps?

[Imonster]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-17113810

Angry farmer "kills" trail rider
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[yen_powell]

[G]

Hope they make an example of him.

Bit more reasonable if they'd be tearing up his cropped fields doing burnouts; but it sounds like they'd made an honest mistake and left again. Wonder what the signage on his land is like?

Only time I've properly had a farmer have a go at us, the entrance to the byway was hidden and the 'private property' signs he claimed we'd ignored weren't visible from the direction we were coming from. He also ragged his hilux up to us when we were stopped, then had a go at us raising dust over his crops, despite the massive trail he'd left.

[Alpha-9]

Aww, he didn't mean to kill them, imagine no matter what happens that guys living with a heavy burden upon his soul
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[mysterious_rider]

[boundy]

[yen_powell]

[tatters]

[mysterious_rider]

Bollocks to that. How did he know who you were? Number plate?

Done a lot of land tresspassing, without hiccup. People can bitch and moan, but nothing happens down south.

That's a rediculous amount of money aswell.

[yen_powell]

[Imonster]

Which is why I've got two plates on my bike - one full size clean plate for any longish road sections, that clips off in ten seconds to reveal the one underneath that is always covered in dust adhered onto it with chain spray.

It's not just farmers, as I understand it s.59's can be issued fairly easily on the "evidence" of an arsey rambler.

And I realise that a particularly anal cop on a lane could fine me for it in theory, but after explaining that I've got a second full size clean one in the rucksack they've been fine.

Going back to mad farmers, Danmoto had a shotgun pointed at him and was told to "get the f*ck off this lane" on a legal byway down this way. Sods law was that he'd lent his helmet cam to Sven that day, so no video evidence or plates of the Landrover the guy was driving
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[JBurrows88]

My best advice with farmers is tell them their not the only one with a shotgun at home... But many to be fair are really helpful if your lost.

Also had someone try to pull me off my XJR when i'd gone down a private road/ drive way (completely lost). Lucky for me after reasoning with the idiot (not exactly how it happened) he apologised.
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[jamesrs250]

on another form it saids that the farmer is not guilty of anything

[Imonster]

Aye, he's been cleared

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-17198054
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[G]

Seriously - how do they manage to conclude that his driving was of an acceptable nature .

[Imonster]

I suspect that part of it was down to general ignorance about ROW classifications. As I understand it, when the incident occurred the group were back on a Byway. However I'd lay money that the majority of the jury would have no idea that this is merely an unsealed road. Had this been clearer to them perhaps the result would have been different.

To use an analogy; if a walker had strayed off a footpath, then been chased onto the A3 by the farmer so that he could have a word with them and "give them a bollocking" (Wolfe's words from the trial) and then run over accidentally due to the farmer losing control of his vehicle....

There would have been a manslaughter conviction without any doubt.
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[N cee thirty]

just some tips guyz

not sure if its a public right of way and there's animals in teh field,try and avoid it ,ride along the hedge or a track thats there already

cba reading what happened exactly,but when you get people on your land,walking dogs etc,that then shit,fuck the grass up,cow eats grass,dies ... 5 grand down the drain from someones lazyness,you can see where most farmers are coming from,ammirite?

most are moody wankers anyway and running over someone in a tractor wouldn't faze them
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[doggone]

Some places have no end of problems with off-roaders (2 and 4 wheels) cutting fences and all sorts, often they're intending hare and deer coursing or even out thieving a couple of sheep.
It's not that surprising that vehicles riding about where they should not be get challenged
Very few are that bothered about sensible use of proper rights of way.

There's an increasing number of people think nothing of dropping all used cans and bottles just anywhere for someone else to clean up (if they see it before it gets picked up in silage and the jagged bits kill a cow or something).
It doesn't help opinion on those 'passing through' if a good % seem to have no respect and little understanding of the consequence of their actions.

[michael j]

It was in the local paper today, the farmer got away with it.
Shocking.

[Imonster]

[doggone]

I'd suspect we don't hear all the details and other things were taken into consideration.
No matter what some will say, the court will have weighed evidence from both sides and tried to make a sound judgement.

(for example did the bikers threaten him first - see some comments above! - or refuse to stop when he asked them to so he could talk to them - we don't know exactly how events unfolded)

[J4mes]

[Imonster]

[J4mes]

Old willy nilly is a bit of a cunt isn't he!

[G]

I wonder if a civil suit would be worth it, still. Just to make the point, more than anything.

Also - what if the farmer had been holding another "deadly weapon" such as a shot gun to "frighten them" and slipped, pulling the trigger and killing one.
Would that be ok?

As I'm lazy - any details of the farm in question?
What they farm and who buys it?