Getting Banned

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So a friend of mine called me today to say he just got 6 points and banned and asking to help sell his bike - he is also not too clued up on any legal licencing aspect anyway.


He is on a CBT and doing a bit of courier work for a small company but didn't have courier insurance (only personal insurance). He said he got stopped by the police and they saw all the courier gear/paperwork and checked out his insurance.

They said he's getting a £200 fine, 6 points on his licence and gonna get banned for a year. They allowed him to drive away.

Are they allowed to issue this on the spot or are they giving him a scare tactic - doesn't it have to go to court for driving bans?
They wouldn't let him drive away would they?

Because I got stopped a few years ago for undertaking a police car - the guy was a power hungry idiot and told me I was gonna get a court summons and 3 points but heard nothing after that day.
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[P.addy]

[Quornholio]

Can you get banned with just 6 points on a CBT?

[pits]

Is he on a provisional licence (green) or a red one and just passed.

If he is on a green provisional I believe he has 12 points, as he has not passed his test so doesn't fall into the new licencing directive for 6 points and ban.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

He might get 6 points, but on CBT that does not mean a ban or loss of licence (unless he already has 6 or more points). A court might ban him for it, but there are rules on issuing points and bans.

All the best

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[Quornholio]

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[Pete.]

He wasn't uninsured - he just wasn't insured to be a courier, so they could let him go on his way if he was going on a non-work journey i.e. home.

open: the cops can't ban him or even issue six points. If he hasn't been offered a conditional offer of fixed penalty (which is limited to three points as I believe) then he'll get paperwork through the post.
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[Llama-Farmer]

I think if he did get 6 points on a provisional licence, then the points would only become "active" when the licence was converted to a full one, which would then result in the licence being revoked

[AlexW]

[Kickstart]

[Rogerborg]

[devojunior]

in 2007 i was given 8 points on a provisional license which did not result in a ban and i carried on to do both tests but hel find it a pita to get insured in the future.

[Paulington]

[Rogerborg]

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so it seems he was issued a FPN for allegedly having no insurance. He didn't have his license on him so he is asked to comply and surrender his license then pay the £200 ( there by admitting the offence and gaining 6 points)

he can appeal to go court. Can he argue that he did have insurance.

So what would be the best way to do this?

If he shows his license to the cop shop does that mean he admits guilt, or.only if he pays the fine?
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[Yarri]

I had 9 points on provisional, stupid law which works in our favour but you don't get banned, infact nothing happens appart from the money fine. After getting full license I still had 9 points which means If I gotten even 1 more I'd get license revoked, but luckily that did not happen.
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[_Iain_]

Hence why matey should have some kind of buisness insurance on his policy, if not full courier insurance.

Personally, i run with it insured for buisness use and state my occupation as a delivery driver, for delivery service. Because you're only on a small bike your task is to check box sizes for the other guys. or some bullshit like that. Or that you just diddent know what degree of buisness insurance you needed.

But if you've not got an actual delivery on you, then you cant get fucked for it at all. You were just out for a ride. Paperworks in there cause its a work bag.

Dont be a spanner wearing a high vis with XXX couriers on it, wear a plain one instead. All common sense realy. And dont confess up to having no insurance because they cant check policy details without calling the firm up. Works wonders if its night time.

Three or four years driving work, no courier insurance, no fast food delivery insurance, pulled more times than i can remember and never got shafted
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