Hi Viz Confusion

[junglejim]

Like many here, I'm very concerned at the prospect of being forced to wear Hi Viz clothing and I'm reading a lot it on various forums.
My initial outrage has turned to confusion because despite spending a long time searching, I can find no confirmation of these new laws from official sources.
All the information seems to be coming from forums, MAG and MCN.
I'm not doubting it per say, but before I start chomping at the bit I would like to see something a bit more concrete.
I mean if these laws are to be implemented by next year, then surely there should be some official information somewhere relating to the actual requirements,
Could someone put up some facts that are not internet forum based, or from MCN/BMF and Mag.
Perhaps something from the French DOT, outlining the requirements.
Thanks.

[Rogerborg]

I'm finding it hard to get my rage on about this particular issue for what I assume are fairly obvious reasons.
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It does seem a bit like French Whispers. Maybe try at Bike Club France?
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[junglejim]

So, any further developments in recent weeks.
It seems ot have gone a bit quiet

[Rogerborg]

Eh, the French don't usually riot until holiday season.
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[junglejim]

Always makes me laugh when I hear people say things like "Oh the French would never put up with that. There'd be a bloodbath on the streets"
Where does this myth come from.
The French for example went belly up on the 100bhp restriction fiasco, when we kicked it out.

[ahaughey536]

Honestly, I'm a learner rider, and after a close call where a silly **** nearly cleaned me out I wear a high vizi jacket at night (mostly) and always have one wrapped around my bag....what harm can it do?
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[mysterious_rider]

[ahaughey536]

I might, but to be honest a sore hole doesn't compare to no hole. lmao
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[st3v3]

[Alpha-9]

I wear a hivis on my bag which ive tied around the strap so it's kind of a hivis strap thingy... I do it out of preference and because i'm mostly wearing only black


Better safe than sorry

Beats wearing it anyway, should get some hi-vis tape or something
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[keggyhander]

[Rogerborg]

While I choose to embrace the glow, I hereby commit to joining any civil disobedience or legal challenge to making it mandatory in the UK or Paddyland.

Making bikes visible isn't the issue, it's getting drivers who can't or won't look off of the road, ideally before but certainly after they SMIDSY someone.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[st3v3]

[keggyhander]

[Digit]

I'm feeling a sense of deja vu here, you see, I was around when we were all forced to wear crash helmets, I heard the same objections then.
I was also around when the law required us to use seat belts, same arguments then as well.
I was left for dead by a car driver when on my bike, 'not expected to survive the night' my parents were told. Did the car driver not see me? I don't know, but there has to be the possibility that a high vis jacket could have saved me from the months of recuperation that followed.
I ride high vis!

Roy.
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[keggyhander]

[Digit]

[daemonoid]

[Digit]

Every year the figure for biking deaths is paraded in the press, but not all bikers are lucky enough to be killed outright.
I left hospital amnesiac, epileptic, partially paralysed, deaf in one ear, slurred speech, a concentration span of seconds, unable to walk properly and the side of my face held together with stitches.
It was nearly three years before I recovered, if people wish to risk that for some form of 'fashion statement' then that is their choice.
But trust me, it's not worth it, there are too many dozy car drivers out there!

Roy.
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[Anthrax1039]

My two pence is this:

I ride during the day without a high vis*, I'm not a huge fan as it really does ruin the look. During the day if a car driver doesn't notice you then frankly they are just a pillock. It happens.

At night, we are told to ride with lights on. This to us all is common sense, no? So why not just stick a high vis on at night and make yourself a little more conspicuous? At least this way you become more noticeable and in the event of an accident it stands you in better steed as you can argue that the car driver must have been fucking blind not to see such garish attire?

[daemonoid]

[Digit]

I don't accept your logic I'm afraid as it is many years since the helmet rules came in and most certainly did not result in a flood of additional legislation.

Roy.
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[daemonoid]

[keggyhander]