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GZXR400
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Front paddock stand Reply with quote

Hi i got a set of paddock stands today and they had no instructions, i assembled the rear stand fine but the front stand i cant work out which adaptor/fitment to use to lift the front forks.

the seller of these has told me i can use the bars of hooks, i am unsure of whats what so i have added a picture to see if any of you can help

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thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never seen any of those used on a front stand! Could you show us which ones you used on the rears?
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the rears i used the bottom ones (bobbin ones)
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The top and bottom set are for rears, I've never seen the middle set before but can't imagine how it would work on the front.

Must be the middle ones, look like they go into the base of the forks?
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe, but don't quote me, there is a recess/hole in the bottom of the forks, the pin sits in this hole and you use the same motion as using the rear stand.

Hope that helps.

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PostPosted: 22:24 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top one is for swinging arms, bottom one is for swinging arm bobbins, middle one is for forks. You put the little blob in the holes in the bottom of the forks. Means you can remove the front wheel, but can't remove the forks.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Top one is for swinging arms, bottom one is for swinging arm bobbins, middle one is for forks. You put the little blob in the holes in the bottom of the forks. Means you can remove the front wheel, but can't remove the forks.


Hi thanks il have a go tomorow Very Happy
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get someone to help hold the bike whilst you figure out how to get it up without dropping it!
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warning!

The fork ones should ONLY be used in conjuction with a rear paddock stand. You need two stands for the fork ones to work!!
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi thanks i have a set both front and back paddock stands and yes i will have someone hold it when trying the front stand for the first time.

I have looked at the bars in the middle picture and the holes under the front forks, the holes in the forks are 3 times the size of the holes on the bars, just want to be sure as i do not want it to fall over

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PostPosted: 14:07 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

GZXR400 wrote:
Hi thanks i have a set both front and back paddock stands and yes i will have someone hold it when trying the front stand for the first time.

I have looked at the bars in the middle picture and the holes under the front forks, the holes in the forks are 3 times the size of the holes on the bars, just want to be sure as i do not want it to fall over

thanks Very Happy


Doesn't matter, as long as the little blob things on the adaptors point upwards, they'll fit into the bottom of the forks and lift the front end up. They don't have to fit perfectly.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've got the exact same adaptors as you, the pins go into the bottom of the forks as said. The seller said you could use the hooks on the front because you can attach bobbins to lift with. Of course you could run a bar through the axle too but then you can't take the wheel off Laughing

To be honest, if you're reasonably careful you can use the front one on it's own but it's not recommended. I normally lift the rear first and put axle stands under the swingarm then lift the front. Pretty solid like that.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
To be honest, if you're reasonably careful you can use the front one on it's own but it's not recommended.


I would absolutely love to see a video of you using a front stand by itself and taking a caliper off. All the more so if you have a nice bike. Fucktardery at it's best, well done. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 03 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The caliper would be off before I lifted the bike...if I could be arsed I'd happily make a video of the bike not falling over. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 04 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
The caliper would be off before I lifted the bike...if I could be arsed I'd happily make a video of the bike not falling over. Thumbs Up


Fuck it then do it and take the front wheel off consodering there is virtually no other reason to use a front paddock stand.

Still fucktardery of the highest order. Thumbs Up Ah well people like you keep parts companies in business so not all bad.
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PostPosted: 01:54 - 04 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what's going on in your life but you seem to be constantly spoiling for a fight on this forum lately from what I've seen of your recent posts.

You're right, it's bad advice, thanks for pointing it out so politely. I have removed the front wheel on just a front stand so it can be done if you're careful but I shouldn't suggest other people do it as it could easily go wrong.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 04 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
I don't know what's going on in your life but you seem to be constantly spoiling for a fight on this forum lately from what I've seen of your recent posts.

You're right, it's bad advice, thanks for pointing it out so politely. I have removed the front wheel on just a front stand so it can be done if you're careful but I shouldn't suggest other people do it as it could easily go wrong.


I don't know what is going on in your life at the moment but you seem to constantly* be giving out bad workshop advice that could result in someone's bike falling over and being damaged.

You're right, Sickpup is a bit fighty sometimes, but sometimes people do follow the advice on this forum and even if you're careful it could go fantastically wrong. So don't suggest that other people do it by saying that it is possible.

OK maybe not constantly, but at least once... Wink
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 04 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

I don't know what is going on in your life at the moment but you seem to constantly* be giving out bad workshop advice that could result in someone's bike falling over and being damaged.

You're right, Sickpup is a bit fighty sometimes, but sometimes people do follow the advice on this forum and even if you're careful it could go fantastically wrong. So don't suggest that other people do it by saying that it is possible.

OK maybe not constantly, but at least once... Wink


Yes, to reiterate, it was bad advice, it's definitely not something I'd suggest anyone else did.

I'd better keep all my other bodges and shortcuts under my hat too as that may very well not be the worst of them...
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 04 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
I don't know what's going on in your life but you seem to be constantly spoiling for a fight on this forum lately from what I've seen of your recent posts.


As I get older I am struggling to contain myself when I see examples of complete and utter fucktardery.

You do of course realise that the bottom of most sets of fork legs are at slightly different heights? you do realise that on most bikes the front end actually turns? both of these factors contribute to it being extremely foolhardy to lift a bike by the front only as it will be unstable yet you recommended to someone new to paddock stands that they do it.

The great thing about the interwebs is the exchange of knowledge, unfortunately that works both ways and the bad knowledge is also exchanged with no financial risk to the person giving it. You knew there was a risk (and a big one) using a front stand only yet you failed to emphasis that risk knowing full well you couldn't be held accountable if/when the OP's bike fell over.

As to my life it is going rather well, thank you for your enquiry.

HTH you to understand my view Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 04 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose my point is Sickpup, that nothing I said in that post was actually untrue.

I forget though that nowadays we're not allowed to attribute common sense to anyone or expect them to actually think for themselves Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 05 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
I suppose my point is Sickpup, that nothing I said in that post was actually untrue.

I forget though that nowadays we're not allowed to attribute common sense to anyone or expect them to actually think for themselves Laughing


You appear to be saying it is perfectly ok for you to give bad advice because the person you are giving it to should know it is bad advice and that this absolves you of all responsibility for your actions directly contradicting your point that people should think for themselves and be responsible for their actions. Are you a bit of a thicko?
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 05 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brick Wall

I honestly thought this had died but I guess you still feel you have a point to prove despite me twice admitting it was bad advice. I guess you just really want to argue with me so ok...

I stated you can use it on it's own if you're careful but that it is not advisable...

I just made a factual statement about what I myself have done in the past...I didn't tell the OP to do it. The fact is, I've never dropped a bike doing it...maybe I'm just really skillful Cool

As for your comment about what I must have meant...clearly what I was saying was that it was up to the OP to decide if the bike was stable enough for whatever he wanted to do, not to decide whether the advice was good Wink

Do you really want to get into this as I'm pretty sure I can wind you up a lot more than you can me if the best you can do is call me a "thicko" Shocked Ultimately, I've already conceded the point, the fact that you won't let it go is frankly a bit bizarre but hey ho, we all have our little axes to grind.
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