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PostPosted: 17:31 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Riding on reserve, good or bad choice? Reply with quote

As the title suggests, just wondering whether riding on reserve is a totally bad decision or not.

Purely asking because I've gathered over the week i have owned my hornet that i can do roughly 100 miles then look for a petrol station, and it would be nice to know i could do about 120 miles then look to fill up, especially as that extra 20 miles will last me a few days more of commuting.

So, Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt but then I dont have a reserve. I have a little light that tells me I need to feed it.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with using reserve if you know what your MPG is and know what the reserve tank size is so you are sure on the range available. Only downside is hoovering up the crap that collects in the bottom of the tank - make a habit of it and I'd be tempted to occasionally disconnect the fuel pipe from the carb and let the last litre or so drain out, then give the filter a clean (if the petcock has one). I'd also stick an additional in-line fuel filter in the pipe to save clogging the carbs up.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that sounds like quite a bit of a downside Thumbs Down I may give it a trial and see if it's worth it Smile
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I would, and do. Avoiding reserve means a drastically shorter range. Which on my current very long commute would mean filling up twice each day.

While it might suck in a bit of rubbish, it is likely to do that whether you use it for 100 yards to get to the nearest petrol station or 30 miles. And if you avoid it totally you will build up water in the bottom of the tank. The engine might cope with a tiny amount in one tank full of fuel, but hitting it with the water that has built up from a few dozen tanks since you last used reserve would seem far more likely to cause an issue.

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PostPosted: 17:53 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got my hornet yesterday, and I too have realised the thirst it has for fuel Laughing


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PostPosted: 17:56 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it seems, although the mess in the bottom of the tank can be a problem, that it will be more beneficial.

Congrats on getting your hornet Mike, hope you enjoy it as much as i am mine Smile
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe once its flushed out and used regularly (which I do see happening) it wont be so full of shit and thus not so much a problem Smile .

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PostPosted: 18:11 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've run out of fuel on every bike I have ever owned. Except the KTM. I always treat Reserve as part of the main fuel tank. I've never had problems running my bike dry Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use reserve on my bike all the time even though it has a fuel gauge. If you're worried about range then just fill a jerry can with fuel and strap it to the back of your bike and run it to empty. Note the mileage it took to get to empty from reserve and then you'll know just how far you can push it.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that's a good shout. I have a trip meter so i can just go by that Smile
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a reserve?

I usually say 'if it's there it's there for a reason', despite this I do not use my reserve and it has just occured to me that one or two minor running problems may be down to this. Maybe.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 06 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must just be me that fills up when i hit 1/4 tank then!! Sad
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I leave my divvy on reserve all the time, I know I'm empty at 170 so fill up by 160, if its there I use it. Defo want a gauge on next bike though.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
...I always treat Reserve as part of the main fuel tank...

...I've run out of fuel on every bike I have ever owned...


This sounds like a good argument not to do it to me Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a fuel tank fetish, I like it to the brim and fill if it is half full Sad
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A5tra_G wrote:
I leave my divvy on reserve all the time, I know I'm empty at 170 so fill up by 160, if its there I use it. Defo want a gauge on next bike though.


I wish my bandit had a fuel gague.

When I first got it I was riding it to I hit the reserve, turns out the garage I brought it from had left the fuel tap on the reserve setting, ran out of fuel 200 yards from a closed petrol station...

Luckily I have awesome friends and one of them got me some fuel and brought to me so I could get home without staying there all night.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: Riding on reserve, good or bad choice? Reply with quote

MotorbikerTom wrote:
As the title suggests, just wondering whether riding on reserve is a totally bad decision or not.

Purely asking because I've gathered over the week i have owned my hornet that i can do roughly 100 miles then look for a petrol station, and it would be nice to know i could do about 120 miles then look to fill up, especially as that extra 20 miles will last me a few days more of commuting.

So, Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down


I've always seen the reserve range as being an indication of when to fill up on bikes that don't have fuel gauges or warning lights.

In that way its useful and a pretty fail safe way of knowing when you need petrol, of course knowing how far you can travel on reserve is useful too - its usually a few litres of tank capacity which depending on the bike could be 30-40 miles though sometimes quite a lot less.

Just don't push it too far!

Personally I've always used the tripmeter to give a useful idea of how far I can go on a tank-full. A petrol tap with reserve can be much more useful and dependable than a fuel warning light and gauge. Its a pity a lot of newer bikes have done away with it.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A5tra_G wrote:
I leave my divvy on reserve all the time, I know I'm empty at 170 so fill up by 160, if its there I use it. Defo want a gauge on next bike though.


You'll end up running dry doing that! You want to just switch to reserve when it needs to be.
You don't need a fuel gauge if you've got a bike with a reserve setting on the tap, fuel gauges don't tell you much anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year my 18year old BMW fuel pump died, which meant I had to drain the fuel tank to replace them pump, I am happy to report that over 18 years my tank had no debris in it, no sludge, just an inch of fuel in the bottom of the tank, below the pick up feed for the fuel pump, there was any debris or crap that didn't get stuck in the fuel filter, or fuel lines, then it would have certainly got stuck trying to make it's way through a carbs jet or an injector, and if it did manage to get through then it isn't exactly going to destroy an engine is it?

Think about it logically, what is big and hard enough to get through an opening this big on an injector and destroy your engine and wont block it?

https://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/423671933/car_injector_cleaner_KTA19_G3G4_3077715_SO40236.jpg
https://fuelinjectorproblems.net/wp-content/uploads/fuel_injection_problems_3.jpg

Similar with a carb
https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/images/products/large_757_amal-carb-carburetor-main-jets-photo-1.jpg

See what I am saying? Anything that small isn't going to destroy your engine, and it would have to be small to run along the fuel line, through the fuel filter, through the carbs or injector, then get inside your engine and smash the pistons and valve together and destroy an engine, they put a reserve and a fuel filter in for a reason, if you can't use it, they are there for a reason, if they weren't safe to use the tanks would be made with an area to catch all the rubbish in Thumbs Up

Also bear in mind how refined fuel is, and how sensitive it is to the atmosphere, companies spends billions refining fuel in dirt free environments, the fuel is then transferred into a dirt free truck ( an inline filter would be used, I would imagine) these trucks are sealed and driven to a petrol station where their hose is connected to a sealed inlet and into a sealed filtered tank, and filtered coming out of the pumps, then filtered buy your fuel filter. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

janner_10 wrote:
Must just be me that fills up when i hit 1/4 tank then!! Sad


Me too, am petrified about running out, even have a spare tenner under the seat for just in case!
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 07 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: Riding on reserve, good or bad choice? Reply with quote

Cheeseybeaner wrote:

I've always seen the reserve range as being an indication of when to fill up on bikes that don't have fuel gauges or warning lights.


For general use, same here. Unless I am somewhere where petrol stations are rare I work on the basis that switching to reserve is time to think about filling up.

All the best

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