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WannaBeDude
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PostPosted: 04:23 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Speedo sat nav filth ? Reply with quote

Ok, i'm not concerned with passing an mot, i have a sensible mot chap for that.

What if filth stop me with no speedo on bike.

What if filth stop me and i say satnav is my speedo.

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PostPosted: 07:38 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The speedo isn't covered on the MoT so no worries there anyway.

If the police were well-informed then they would know that no speedo is a contravention of the Construction and Use regulations, and also that a sat nav is not an appropriate speedo ( doesn't work in tunnels, dodgy under trees and in built-up areas, not a direct measurement of vehicle speed and so on).

I'd be surprised I'd they'd let you continue your journey. Not sure of the penalty though.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

how will they know??

flashy blue lights, pull over, turn off bike.... not moving so speedo wouldnt be working anyway.

pretty sure they are not going to run along side you shouting 'slow down I cant see the dials'.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this thread will reveal so i know for sure, i doubt they can stop you carrying on like 2nd poster states. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't say your speedo isn't working, you say you have 'no speedo'.

Maybe the second poster thought you meant, literally, 'no speedo', like the guy on youtube who's modded his bike and removed his dials and just slots a satnav where they used to be?
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: Speedo sat nav filth ? Reply with quote

When I got stopped on my bike with no speedo dial, I told them fairly accurately but just under the speed they radar'd me at so they didn't look that way.

Did later take the speedo off that bike and use a pushbike one. Even if you don't bother to set it up, you could get a cheap push bike speedo for £5 or whatever and have it attached.


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PostPosted: 10:53 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have no speedo, clocks ... want to know legailtys and decide meself what to do from there ....
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally if a bike is registered after 1984 it needs a working speedo. As said a sat-nav won't cut it.
(before 1984 you could get away with a less than 100cc not having one)
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What powers / law can pigs do stopping me on the road ?
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't tell plod the speedo isn't working, also don't tell the tax man if you get the odd cash in hand job for mates / family.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
What powers / law can pigs do stopping me on the road ?


If the bike is un-road worthy I believe they could confiscate it. They can also ask to see your insurance details to check everything is legit. They could also charge you with a motoring offence (and if you can't prove your ID they could arrest you).

Why not just get a bicycle speedo?About £5 from lots of shops or the web.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could don't mean shit - if you have a faulty light etc - they give you a rectification notice ... so your post is just Confused
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

janner_10 wrote:
Don't tell plod the speedo isn't working, also don't tell the tax man if you get the odd cash in hand job for mates / family.


I do jobs for the family, FREE !! ... well .. they do me a turn now and again ..

Ref speedo .. as stated earlier - i have NO CLOCKS !

ala ..

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PostPosted: 19:54 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the police were well-informed then they would know that no speedo is a contravention of the Construction and Use regulations, and also that a sat nav is not an appropriate speedo ( doesn't work in tunnels, dodgy under trees and in built-up areas, not a direct measurement of vehicle speed and so on).

I'd be surprised I'd they'd let you continue your journey. Not sure of the penalty though.


C&U does say you need a speedo, but I can't see any indication that a sat nav wouldn't qualify, unless the online version I found is missing some text. Which is possible. A sat nav is a device, it measures speed, sounds like a qualifies to me - C&U doesn't seem to mandate how the speedo has to work.

I guess the police could argue that because it's not a direct measurement of road vehicle speed and/or doesn't work in tunnels, it's not usable as a speedo. Then I guess a well motivated lawyer could argue that a traditional speedo isn't 100% reliable either - the speedo of a car on a slippery surface (or a bike whose front wheel happens to be in the air... Very Happy ) isn't indicating the actual vehicle speed, either. (Sat nav would be more accurate!) It's just pretty close under most conditions.

If the police did decide to make an issue of it, you'd be making these arguments at a later date because they'd probably confiscate the bike on the spot, mind. If your goal is to avoid hassle if you get pulled, making a technical argument based on the wording of C&U isn't likely to work, because you'll have shitloads of hassle, even if you eventually win.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the OP says he's not concerned about the mot but for everyone else; beware, as from April the new mot rules apply which will include a working, illuminated speedo.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

confiscate the bike on the spot

Sorry, thats utter bollux imo .... at worse they can stop you carrying on your journey. WTF u get this conviscate bollux from i dont know. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess its so you don't carry on and they can prove so.

I thought this thread was going to be something sexy. I was disappoint.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ffs - anyone use gps on iphone 3gs - and if so what app u use for it .. Rolling Eyes Karma
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iphone GPS, certainly for speedo use is hopeless, you have to sit at a constant speed before it catches up. Satnav speed is much better.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 10 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care - i know my speed - it's just something i can say i use ... as of today i/ve got a 3gs, will will be easier and cheaper to mount than the tom tom 910 i have.

WOuld want the gps up and running but would hardly ever use it as i prefer maps. Or use google maps to pin point location if lost. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 11 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

just ride it and find out, cant be that much of a serious offence to warrant all this worry.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 11 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct - would of been nice to know whats what though - instead of speculation ... Rolling Eyes
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