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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Textile set and 1 piece leather set Reply with quote
Atm I have a textile jacket and leather trousers. I have been thinking of upgrading to a full leather 1 piece for summer road riding and eventually track day riding (albeit thinking a long way into the future). But what I don't want is to spend a couple of hundred on a full leather 1 piece and then find it too uncomfortable or whatever and end up never wearing it again.

Does anyone else have a 1 piece that they use for summer riding? Is there anything I should know about them?

Edit: When doing some research, I came across this on another forum from our very own T.C

T.C wrote:
If you are ever only going to do track days or ride on the road, then a two piece is safer than a one piece for a whole number of reasons.

A one piece is fine for the track where there is medical help close to hand, and by and large the injuries sustained can be dealt with quickly and fairly simply back at a medical centre if needs be.

However out on the road when it goes pear shaped, the nearest Ambulance is often miles away, and when they arrive a diagnosis has to be made quickly.

Now if you are wearing a one piece with a broken collar bone and lower body injuries, and bearing in mind it takes time to cut through body armour and 1.4 mm of leather, the only other alternative is to try and quickly peel your super duper one piece off your shoulder making the upper body injury even worse and certainly more painful, or risk leaving alone and hope to god that the lower body injury is nothing serious.

With a two piece, the jacket (and I am talking about zip together suits here) can easily be separated from the trousers allowing easy diagnosis of lower body injuries. Discomfort and increase to the severity of an injury to the upper body can be minimised and time is in now in favour of the medical crews.

A one piece is also designed for the racing crouch, so it goes very baggy around the lower body much more quickly than a two piece because the elastication and stress points are different, apart from the convenience factor that when you walk around with a one piece tied in a knot around your waist you are now stretching the leather on the sleeves.

I can quote you probably 50 examples of where someone wearing a one piece has bled to death on the side of the road because access to a burst vein has been restricted or time consuming, or where a severely broken leg has not been diagnosed properly, or where the rider has been in absolute agony whilst the medical personnel attempt to remove a suit over a smashed shoulder and collar bone to gain access to the riders stomach because most of his inners were sliding down the inside of his suit and they could not cut through the leather and armour quickly enough. And so the list goes on.

A two piece does not suffer that problem, and take into account on race track there are nice wide grass run off areas, and smooth tarmac and everyone is going the same way, and a medical team and Doctor are only seconds away, a luxury we don't have on the road.

If you want to minimise the risk (and I see stories like I mentioned every day) then consider a two piece full zip together over a one piece race suit, believe me you won't regret it.


When asked about his background, T.C. says:

T.C wrote:
I only have 20 years of attending bike accidents as a motorcycle copper, 10 years as an accident investigator (my current job) where clothing worn still plays a part of the investigation, and 5 years on a full time basis studying every single serious and fatal RTA in my area in respect of the clothing worn not the cause of the accident, visiting all the main testing bodies around the world, manufacturers in the UK, Japan, Germany and the USA. I also have to prepare reports and studies as an expert witness for courts and law firms (as well as mine), and I am also frequently asked to study and prepare reports for Government agencies and other safety bodies not just here in the UK but for overseas as well.


(Above taken from another forum)

Definitely food for thought...
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Make sure you can pee out of it easily. More important than you'd think Wink
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alot depends on how much you are willing to pay, couple of hundred get you a bargain basement type suit which while it may do a good job may not be the most comfortable or have lots of features.

You can buy suits for different uses, don't auatomaticaly think that all 1 piece suits are designed for the track. You can get suits for the road and the track.

A track suit is made to be comfortable on a sports bike in a crouched position, hence why you see riders walking round a bent over and bow legged.

A suit aimed for the road rider will have more elasticated panels at the back for the knees and arms ect giving a wider range of seating positions.

Get one that fits properly too, the amount of people you see walking about in leathers hanging off them always amazes me!

I'd say the more you pay the more you get but I'm sure plenty of people will swear by their 100 pound bargain.
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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
fozzym wrote:
You can buy suits for different uses, don't auatomaticaly think that all 1 piece suits are designed for the track. You can get suits for the road and the track.

A track suit is made to be comfortable on a sports bike in a crouched position, hence why you see riders walking round a bent over and bow legged.

A suit aimed for the road rider will have more elasticated panels at the back for the knees and arms ect giving a wider range of seating positions.


Thanks, I didn't know that Karma
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's beyond my understanding why would anyone buy a one piece? 2 can zip together, job done. So uncomfortable getting on and off. Mind you this may have something to do with my love handles but nevertheless ... Still wouldn't bother with 1.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
A suit is only as strong as its weakest part, which is usually the zips.
Thats why a 1 piece is better, but they're a pain to get on and off and use the loo etc..
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
whitedevil wrote:
A suit is only as strong as its weakest part, which is usually the zips.
Thats why a 1 piece is better, but they're a pain to get on and off and use the loo etc..


But how many incidents do you know of where the zip has come apart in an off? I can't think of any.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
whitedevil wrote:
A suit is only as strong as its weakest part, which is usually the zips.
Thats why a 1 piece is better, but they're a pain to get on and off and use the loo etc..


I would agree with you on a long term basis though. Wear and tear. But I'd rather buy a new one every 2-3 years (saying that I've had mine for a year and already bought another lol) than live with the inconvenience for 2-3 years.

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PostPosted: 18:11 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
whitedevil wrote:
A suit is only as strong as its weakest part, which is usually the zips.
Thats why a 1 piece is better, but they're a pain to get on and off and use the loo etc..


I bet that zips come apart in verry few crashes.
I would choose a 2 peice any day. Its much more practical.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 13 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
You've got to think about the difference of what you'll be hitting on the track and on the road like T.C said, on the road theres alot of things to hit and slide into, on the track, your probably looking at a slide down the road. Leather is the best against abrasion, but what about taking the impact of a hit? Would you choose leather or textile?

I think for overall practicality, i'd choose textile. Many of the materials they're coming up with now-a-days are vastly catching up with the abilities of leather.
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