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grant965
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: do I have to sorn? Insurance is expiring tomorrow Reply with quote

Hi, the t'cat is only insured till tomorrow night, does that mean I have to sorn it because I'm not re-insuring? Selling it so I need tax on it so it can be ridden home.

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PostPosted: 21:17 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

by law you need to sorn if no insurance on the bike.
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J.M.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, yes.

I'm in the same corner as you here. I want to sell the bike with a years tax, but I can't because my insurance runs out a day after the tax does. I could buy tax now, but I'd have to sorn it when the insurance ran out.

PITA law in my opinion.
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grant965
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

to I sorn saturday night or Sunday or have I got a few days, can it be done online, do I get refund on the remaining month and half?
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J.M.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
to I sorn saturday night or Sunday or have I got a few days, can it be done online, do I get refund on the remaining month and half?


Just SORN it before the actual insurance runs out and you should be fine, so that's up to you.

You can SORN it online here: https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/sorn?execution=e2s1

You can only reclaim full calendar months, so you can only claim back a month from the month and a half you have left. You can do this with the V14 form: https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItOnline/DG_4017819

Depending on what the bike cost to insure tax, most hassle than it's worth in my opinion. Thumbs Up

Edit: Made a correction (see strikeout). Oops. Embarassed
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In practice you've got months and several reminders before Capita Group Plc the DVLA start demanding a bribe.
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PostPosted: 01:34 - 17 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My housemate had a similar with the car and DVLA actually said that first month or two is ok to have it that way (taxed but not insured), but it's not really an official way, so they do close both eyes with these cases, but only for a bit.
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Ayrton
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 17 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my bike uninsured and not SORN for nearly 4 months while i was waiting to do my CBT. Never had any problems.
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