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Lupine Lacuna
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Changing down gears and traction Reply with quote

Had my first little scare this morning as I was going down a relatively steep hill and went into first, let it out ever so slightly too quick (but not that quick) and was shocked when I felt the front wheel lose a little traction...
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

It seems you need to learn how to ride.
Why are you using 1st, you dont need it unless you are pulling away, or wheelies...

On your island, you'll only ever need 2nd.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: Changing down gears and traction Reply with quote

front?

I've gone down too far and skipped the back a little, but gears do not affect the front.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, your gears are more likely to get the back to step rather than lose the front.

Also 1st? I use first for 1 corner I know, this is the corner;

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If the corner was a normal corner, your engine should be nicely decelerating when going into the corner and not pulling you though, and on the way out of the corner you should be able to put a bit of power on. i.e. it's no good going into a 20mph in 4th/5th because the engine at idle throttle might still be pulling the wheel, so 2nd/3rd might be more appropriate. If the throttle is off going into the corner, you shouldn't have the feeling of being 'pushed', you should be in a low enough gear that the bike is neutral going in, but you should also have immediate throttle for coming out. On a 125 from memory I'd have thought 2nd for most low speed corners and 3rd for most stuff in a 30mph zone.

On my 600/1200 most around town stuff is 2nd/3rd (right angle bends, 2nd, 3rd for sweepy bends) and out of town, depending on riding - i.e. fun or just getting a move on will be somewhere between 2nd/4th.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I NEED THAT CORNER IN MY LIFE! Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's in Rye Paddy, I always get stuck behind cars at that point Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AL- wrote:
It's in Rye Paddy, I always get stuck behind cars at that point Crying or Very sad


Need to go down there early in the summer 6/7am or something...

Looks absolutely awesome, almost as awesome as the roundabout I go round the wrong way just to burn chicken strips Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting corner, although on the way up (on the inside tight bit), it's quite tricky to do quickly, the outside is a bit easier, it's quite steep as well, I always find the bike wants to wheelie on the way up it.

As AL- said, lots of time you get stuck behind cars on this one, it's still a nice road between Hastings > Rye though with plenty of overtaking opportunities. And obviously the Rye end leads onto a nice road to either Ashford or Camber/New Romney.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this you by any chance, OP?

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PostPosted: 11:54 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's called Ferry Hill btw Paddy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should point out that I was in heavy traffic, coming to a stop at a roundabout
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:
I should point out that I was in heavy traffic, coming to a stop at a roundabout


You have roundabouts!? How is there more than 1 road on that dirt mound you call an island!!

Heavy traffic... you are on a bike, no such thing, stay in 2nd until you stop.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lupine Lacuna wrote:
I should point out that I was in heavy traffic, coming to a stop at a roundabout


So you shit yourself changing down to 1st in traffic? Are you sure this biking bit is for you?
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That still doesn't explain how you managed to break traction on the front wheel, unless you were pulling a wheelie.
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
AL- wrote:
It's in Rye Paddy, I always get stuck behind cars at that point Crying or Very sad


Need to go down there early in the summer 6/7am or something...

Looks absolutely awesome, almost as awesome as the roundabout I go round the wrong way just to burn chicken strips Laughing


Yeah do my route -

Maidstone > Hastings > Rye > Camber > New Romney. Just pass the Sainsburys at New Romney you take the left at the pub (pub is called the plough), which is all back roads which brings you out at Ashford Designer Outlet, then jump onto the Ashord Road towards Faversham to home

It's a nice route as long as you don't get held up with traffic
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Rogerborg said, how does you shifting down into first on a hill manage to break traction on the front wheel? Confused.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumping down to first whilst using my rear brake to turn a corner = rear traction loss and a fun way to turn corners Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just felt very juttering on the front wheel, I have not noticed it before.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm calling Troll.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:47 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Dumping down to first whilst using my rear brake to turn a corner = rear traction loss and a fun way to turn corners Thumbs Up

On a YBR125..........
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

His wheelie claims are better pits Wink
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF were you doing to lose traction on the front, trying to fly? You're not a Harry Potter fan are you? Flying motorbikes don't exist in the real world.

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PostPosted: 14:08 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three Hours, twenty two replies, and SO FAR, the blob is still green!
Is this a record for one of Lupine's posts?
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
His wheelie claims are better pits Wink


Imma gonna video it!

Then you'll see! then you'll all see!
all see my fall on my ass probably

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