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PostPosted: 16:57 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: My bike for sale collection by courier Reply with quote

Hi folks, I have had an offer for my sons bike through ebay, the buyer is based in Edinburgh and wants to pay in to our bank account first then send a courier to collect, can you see any pitfalls with this, have any of you ever done this before? Have you any recomendations to safeguard us? Also how do you deal with the logbook change as it needs his signature?

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PostPosted: 17:13 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a direct bank transfer then you should be okay, just don't let the bike go until it's cleared.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money into the bank is definitely safer than PayPal.

As already said, check you have the money before the courier takes it away. And get the courier to sign something. Don't want him saying the bike was never picked up. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is still possible for the buyer to withdraw the cash transfer, or the transfer to fail even though the monies seem to be in your account. This is due to the bank clearing process. Its a bit like the cheque scam, when the cheque seems to clear ok, the bank initially credit your account, only for the cheque to bounce during the clearing process, and the bank debits the account.
For anyone sending a courier & paying for a bike by any means other than cash in hand I`d insist the buy must wait a minimum of 10 day before I`d release the bike. As there are many variations of the cheque/transfer send courier scam
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds ok, however i would ask for a landline number and full address and chat to him about it first , get a feel for him.

I sold a bike once via same method with no problems and I just scribbled on my part of the V5 with his signature and sent it off.

sent the thin green part with the guy who collected it.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always ask for cash via Special Delivery which would cover all parties - if he has it in his bank account then he can withdraw the cash over the counter at a branch of his bank Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I transfer money into another account not owned by me, then the money tends to go in instantly, and I'm able to withdraw it immediately. I can't see a problem with this, if you take the cash once it goes in.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peirre oBollox wrote:
it is still possible for the buyer to withdraw the cash transfer, or the transfer to fail even though the monies seem to be in your account. This is due to the bank clearing process. Its a bit like the cheque scam, when the cheque seems to clear ok, the bank initially credit your account, only for the cheque to bounce during the clearing process, and the bank debits the account.
For anyone sending a courier & paying for a bike by any means other than cash in hand I`d insist the buy must wait a minimum of 10 day before I`d release the bike. As there are many variations of the cheque/transfer send courier scam


That would depend on how its sent, if by 'faster payments' where it hits your account instantly, I believe it can only be reversed in the first hour or two, this is why when making a faster payment it stated that it could take up to 2 hours to be deposited, whilst the banks do their security checks, after this then its 'safe' to withdraw as cleared funds.

Although banks can and do write to customers, if the person sending the money has claimed they 'made a mistake' but they cant just dip and and withdraw it, they have to request that you return it.

If by BACS then it can be recalled a few days after its been deposited.

If I were the OP, I would insist on an over the counter deposit just to be doubly sure that it cant be reversed, that way, its as good as having the cash in your hand.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 24 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had bikes picked up by couriers before, although they've always sent cash with the courier, ask if this is possible?
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not get him to send a bankers draft or what ever they are called ? special delivery insured for how ever much your selling bike for incase the draft goes missing.
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some bank transfers can be reversed or not completed. Why not call your bnak and ask them for advice.

Talking to the guy on the phone first is a good idea too, and put his address into maps to see where he lives.
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

firefox wrote:
why not get him to send a bankers draft or what ever they are called ? special delivery insured for how ever much your selling bike for incase the draft goes missing.


Would you know how to spot a forged one? Same with those building society cheques.

Cash or nothing from me.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought two bikes like this, one for 670 and one for 1800.

Just did a full bank transfer into the guys account after getting his address and he just scribbled in the bit for my sig.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought two bikes like this, one for 670 and one for 1800.

Just did a full bank transfer into the guys account after getting his address and he just scribbled in the bit for my sig.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would insist on sourcing the courier.

Then again, the guy I bought my monster off accepted a bank transfer that hadn't completed when I picked it up. He definitely passed my trust test, and I guess I passed his.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not cash?
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
If I transfer money into another account not owned by me, then the money tends to go in instantly, and I'm able to withdraw it immediately. I can't see a problem with this, if you take the cash once it goes in.


The bank can still declare a Mulligan and claw back the money later, leaving you owing it to them.

In a previous life I used to work in a bank, and did once see a plausible looking fake draft, which had presumably been copied from one of our real ones by a pro - this was before everyone and their dog had access to cheap colour printing. The poor bugger who'd been passed it was left several £,000 out of pocket.

However, a transfer from a UK bank account (rather than from Very Official Safe Bank of Nigeria) is likely to be final.

Personally I'd be happy with a direct transfer from an honest sounding UK citizen. I'd trust it more than any promissory note, which is all that any cheque or 'draft' is.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 25 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
Why not cash?


It's possible he is using paypal to convert credit card into cash avoiding the 30% cash advance fee. I'm going to do this soon and then transfer it to a 0% apr card.

Cheaper than a personal loan, short term.
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