Ducati 1199 Panigale - OMG

[Knot600RR]

Had a ride of one of these this morning - they're stupid money, but putting that aside, it's a phenomenal piece of engineering and just incredibly quick. It was hard getting back onto a 'mere mortal' bike.


.....and I can't afford one - which is upsetting....

[Paulington]

I have a feeling I would still prefer my bike.

It's not that much 'faster' than mine at realistic speeds, I'm sure I could keep up with it well into 160mph and the main reason:

every Ducati sportsbike (848, 999, 1098S) I've been on, has been by far the most uncomfy thing I have ever sat on, ever.

The GSX-R I can ride for hundreds of miles and have loads of fun, the 1098S was like sitting on a metal plate welded to the top of a jackhammer. Just doesn't do it for me.

Amazing pieces of engineering, but my opinion is some bikes are much better for different reasons.
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[Rob W]

Can I just ask what bikes you've ridden up until now?

(not a sarcy comment, just interested)
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[Knot600RR]

I hear you, many bikes will be nearly (if not) quicker, more comfy, cheaper and many other things - but it was just very nice to ride a ridiculously extravagant machine.

Similar to driving automotive exotica....

[Knot600RR]

[Rob W]

Just as a comparison. If you've ridden loads of bikes and still thought it was the bollox then fair play.

If you'd ridden a DNA50 and an RS125 before (presumably) owning a CBR6-RR and then riding it, not so much.


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[Moxey]

Had a look around a few Dukes today in Newcastle, honestly I preferred the 848 Evo for looks, shame they don't offer test rides for under 21's (I would willingly put my left nut down as collateral for it if crashed)

https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc425/8Moxey8/DSC01654.jpg

https://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc425/8Moxey8/DSC01655.jpg
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[Knot600RR]

[gray84]

Ugly bikes. Sorry.
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[rac3r]

187 bhp at the rear wheel

https://ducatiforum.co.uk/cms/319-panigale-187bhp-at-the-wheel/

and some new pics without the bodywork

https://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk105/HideawayCottage/ducati-1199-panigale-senza-carenatu.jpg
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[Philly46]

I wanted to take one out but Ducati Wolverhampton want the following...

RIDER MUST BE OVER 25

HAVE HELD LICENCE FOR 2 YEARS OR MORE

NO PENALTIES OR BANS IN PREV 3 YEARS / NO BANS IN PERVIOUS 5 YEARS

2 PARTS DRIVING LICENCE (SHOWING CURRENT ADDRESS) OR OLD STYLE PAPER LICENCE (SHOWING CURRENT ADDRESS) MUST ALSO HAVE CURRENT PASSPORT

2 UTILITY BILLS WITHIN PREV 3 MONTHS (SHOWING NAME AND CURRENT ADDRESS)#

KEYS TO RIDER'S VEHICLE.

Fuck me, it's easier to open a bank account.
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[Moxey]

Without the fairing they look a bit like the Diavel at the front to me anyway, the visual look of the bike doesn't really appeal to me its all the hype about the ride as OP and X's link suggest that sparks my interest.
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[Blau Zedong]

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[Paulington]

[Blau Zedong]

The new R1 is about 2 seconds a lap slower than the S1000RR (we'll assume the Panigale is as quick or quicker), the GSXR is slower than the R1, so no you wouldn't be able to get within a second of the Panigale, not a chance. The performance difference between the old (R1 / GSXR) and the new generation of bikes (S1000RR / Panigale / Priller APRC) is actually quite large, probably the biggest it's been since the days of Blade vs. GSXR vs. EXUP.
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[Acemastr]

08 GSXR1000 with 170RWBHP? so it's making 190ish at the crank?

sorry but that Dyno is over reading, or Suzuki are doing something wonderful with their engines.
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[daemonoid]

[G]

That's a 2005 though - the 07/08 got a bit of extra power as standard, but also extra weight etc.
Went for the 05/06 model for low down power as the consensus seemed to be the later model lost a bit, while the earlier was about the best ratio along with lower weight (though that may have been purely the twin vs single exhaust to be fair.)

However, I'd tend to agree with the sentiment - a sports 600 is probably not much more than a second off in the quarter mile, never mind a litre bike from the last ten years.

And torque is all well and good, until you see it revs a good chunk lower, so probably geared higher relatively. Interesting to see it's actually got a more peaky torque graph than the GSXR - though this model GSXR is known to be pretty flat.

[G]

Looking at the graphs, was surprised quite how peaky it is - certainly more so that the current Jap bikes.

Seems that low down it's not too far off rev for rev from the Jap bikes, then climbs very rapidly.
Might actually be an interesting bike to ride .
https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/gsxr05vsducati12.jpg

However, if we look at it on the basis of both bikes being in a gear with the same top speed:
https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/gsxr05vsducati12gearing.jpg
We can see the seven year old GSXR1000 has significantly more low down power in a similar gear and it's only in those last few thousands rpm that it really goes - reminds me of an NSR125 x 10?

(Note I haven't tried to match up torque axis, only power, second graph shows mph rather than rpm.)

Be interesting to see thrust graphs and to know what gearing it's using.

[edit - and I just read the article that came from - it was a press release basically.]

[G]

A quick google leads us to:
https://www.austinracing.info//mall/infopageviewer.cfm/AustinRacing/PANIGALEFEATURE
From there: The dyno runs so far have shown a massive 92+ ft-lbs of torque. It is a little unfair to publish peak power results as the bike only has 50 miles on the clock, in standard trim so far hitting 176 bhp at the rear wheel.

So I presume those graphs were the factory's power at crank.
So we're talking at best equalling the BMW, though with less weight. Quite possible more peaky too.

Someone on a forum commented that Steve Mercer had mentioned a 160hp on his facebook - but I don't see it on the public facebook (and I don't blame him if he did post it at all.)

[Paulington]

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