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| J.M. |
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I don't see how they are the hardest?
Your problem is lack of confidence, which is why you put your feet down. Practise more, have faith in the bike, pass  ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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| J.M. wrote: | I don't see how they are the hardest? |
Restricted steering lock, & geometry that steers more by leaning than turning the bars.
LEAN IT
You are sticking your foot down because you have lean to make a sports bike turn, but going slow, 'feels' like its going to tip.
So, either:-
a) counter-lean; ie lay the bike over further underneath you while YOU stay more 'upright' so bike tilts to the road, to make it turn, while you do the 'balence' with it the G-forces to hold it up
b) Throttle it. You can generate a lot more G-Force accelerating, than turning sharply. G-Force is what stops you falling over when you lean; so line it up, be brave, and accelerate THROUGH the turn to give yourself some cornering force to hold you up while you get the bike over.
c) Do Mod 1 on a School's 'regulation learner/commuter' 125, that isn't so compromised for style. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Learn better clutch control
I bet you can ride slower than you think, giving you time to manoeuvre the way you want  ____________________ Current Ride: Daytona 600 |
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God knows if it will help for you, but a suggestion, When doing my U-Turns on CBT, initially, I really struggled with it, so the instructor stood on the road near where he wanted me and just shouted "look at me, look at me, look at me, that wasn't so hard, was it?" Hire a friend to stand on the road shouting abuse at you, it draws focus  |
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In all Honesty mate, if you're using the rear brake you're doing it wrong.
It's all about clutch control.
Never touched the brakes on my 125 Varadero on Slalom or U-Turn or Figure 8's, all clutch and throttle control. I firmly believe this is the way.
If you gotta touch the rear then I spose ya gotta but I say best not to!
Just my opinion of course.
As above, if you practice in around two and a half parking bays when it comes to the day, the space you actually get will look much bigger, so easier  ____________________ My Lane Position is always AWESOME!! |
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What bike is it OP?
Most 125 bikes sold under the "sports" premise are nothing like sports bikes, merely faired 125 commuters. Unless you are on something like an RS125 I doubt the geometry of the bike is holding you back.
I was taught to get the engine noisy, slip the clutch until it bites and hold it steady in one position then control the speed using my rear brake - means you only need to concentrate on one thing at once (brake). If you are sticking your foot down it is probably because you are looking at the floor, going too slow, changing speed too much or are very afraid of dropping it. I am a big fan of dragging the rear brake to stabilise the bike.
A full lock U turn on any bike is perfectly possible, keep practising and good luck . |
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| DIYdemon |
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| DonnyBrago wrote: | What bike is it OP?
Most 125 bikes sold under the "sports" premise are nothing like sports bikes, merely faired 125 commuters. Unless you are on something like an RS125 I doubt the geometry of the bike is holding you back.
I was taught to get the engine noisy, slip the clutch until it bites and hold it steady in one position then control the speed using my rear brake - means you only need to concentrate on one thing at once (brake). If you are sticking your foot down it is probably because you are looking at the floor, going too slow, changing speed too much or are very afraid of dropping it. I am a big fan of dragging the rear brake to stabilise the bike.
A full lock U turn on any bike is perfectly possible, keep practising and good luck  . |
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