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BorderHooner
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PostPosted: 02:25 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: which track bike Reply with quote
hi all, i'm a novice track wannabee.

ive lost interest in track cars this season. my 265bhp 4x4 coupe pushing 15psi boost was exciting to begin with, but soon got boring.

I want freedom and speed.

I havent ridden since field bikes when i was a lad.

what should i start with, i havent bought a bike mag for years Embarassed . ive got around 2K to start a project, this is just for the bike and some spares, will start saving for safety gear after xmas.

must be great handling, fast, easy to work on, abundant in spares - generally a good novice track day bike for a 12.5 stone 5ft10" bloke.

cheers, carlos
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PostPosted: 02:44 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Get an aging sports 600 such as a CBR. Millions about abundent parts and alot of speed for your money.
They might not handle the best, be the fastest or look the nicest, but for £2000 you cant really expect a huge amount.
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PostPosted: 02:47 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
are they heavy handling? I have carpell tunnell and need something which will be lightest on the wrists?
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PostPosted: 03:01 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry but there is no mythical bike which will go fast as hell on a track, be light as a feather, cost £2000 AND coupe with having a big fatty sat on it Wink
If there were i assure you we would all have one Laughing

You have to priotitise weather you want light handleing or real speed, both of course are inversly proportional to cost Embarassed

I'd say that given your budget and physical size a 600 is the lightest handling sportiest bike you will find. The question needs only to be which one. There is very little overall difference betwean the bikes, certainly no difference the average car driver would notice. So it will likely be a case of what you can find locally to meet your needs.

Ebay is a good place to start looking for bikes, great for seeing what is out there and what the general price ranges are
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
lol.. Laughing

great.. cheers mate..

start looking for a 600 racer then.
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PostPosted: 03:29 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
How long ago since you last rode bikes, and what's your biking experience from then?
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PostPosted: 04:19 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
How long ago since you last rode bikes, and what's your biking experience from then?


50cc field bike 20 yrs ago Embarassed

what about something like a aprilla rs 250? thats light and nippy. what are parts like?
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PostPosted: 04:31 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
If after 20 years since riding a 50cc field bike, get on a 600cc track bike and you'll have problems. Also, do you have a motorcycle license as you'll need one to be allowed on trackdays or to get a ACU race license which won't be easy having only riden 50cc bikes 20 years ago. You're best off getting yourself a road bike and to be able to use the bike easily and well before going on trackdays.
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
carlosfandango wrote:
are they heavy handling? I have carpell tunnell and need something which will be lightest on the wrists?


Out of the sport 600s, the CBR is probably gentlest on the wrists due to the riding position. Though if you've got bad wrists, track riding may not be the ideal passtime to take up cos I always come away from a trackday a bit sore in that area (among others).
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
If after 20 years since riding a 50cc field bike, get on a 600cc track bike and you'll have problems. Also, do you have a motorcycle license as you'll need one to be allowed on trackdays or to get a ACU race license which won't be easy having only riden 50cc bikes 20 years ago. You're best off getting yourself a road bike and to be able to use the bike easily and well before going on trackdays.


my uncle is teaching me to ride a sports bike, he's been tracking and roading for 30 years, where gonna buy/build a bike which i can ride on the tack. he reckons i dont need a licence, but do need to show i can ride. no mot, no tax, no lights.

i dont want to be a roader, i'll stick to 4 wheels. just want to ride on the track. i dont expect any medals next season, just wanna learn before i buy a bigger bike.

but i reckon getting formal road training is the obvious first step, and maybe buy a rs125 just to get used to riding before a full blown tack monster.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
just booked my 1 day CBT for saturday. Wink

i reckon i'll take my DA early spring and potter round on a 125 til then - and in the mean time buy a track bike to work on.

would a light powerfull uprated 250 be better for me than a 600? bearing in mind it will be my first season?
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
carlosfandango wrote:
he reckons i dont need a licence


You do need a licence for trackdays, either a road licence or an ACU one.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Do you live in the UK?
If so, you do need a licence. Personally I'd get a licence and get a road registered track bike. This way you can get to grips with the basics in a controlled manner without having to go all out.

Bendy wrote:

Out of the sport 600s, the CBR is probably gentlest on the wrists due to the riding position. Though if you've got bad wrists, track riding may not be the ideal passtime to take up cos I always come away from a trackday a bit sore in that area (among others).

Then your body positioning is wrong Smile.
Your arms should horziontal, so it should be back pain you get from the position of the handle bars. Of the slightly older/cheaper bikes the r6 is pretty light for turning as it the GSXR SRAD I believe. However, in the end, you can play with any bike to make it lighter turning, but expect more tank slappers etc.
If you don't want to put weight through your arms make sure you brace your knees against the tank under braking.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:

Then your body positioning is wrong Smile.


I do the horizontal thing, I don't lock my arms out under braking, but if I ride my bike for any length of time, road or track, I get sore wrists and sore thumb joints.

Trackdays I get it more on the right hand from pulling on the brakes more often and harder than usual, town riding I get it more on the left hand from the constant clutch mashing. Just a product of having weak wrists I'm afraid - it's a lot better than it was when I started riding, first 6 weeks or so I was regularly waking up with a dead left arm. Confused
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 29 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry, I was reffering to:
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Out of the sport 600s, the CBR is probably gentlest on the wrists due to the riding position.

On track it shouldn't really matter the postion of the clipons that much if if you have your arms in the right position.
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