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PostPosted: 22:51 - 02 Apr 2012    Post subject: MSG Reply with quote

Monosodium glutamate, do you use it?
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 02 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the feeling takes me.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 02 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was a kid some twonk of a hippy told me it was a short cut to an early grave but a little research says it is a cool additive to food in moderation. Observations and opinions welcomed.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 02 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been used in recipes for over a 100 years so can't imagine it's doing that much harm. Still legal in Europe and the US if that's anything to go by. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 02 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I add flavour, not flavour enhancer. I've no objection to it though. They just don't sell the stuff in Tescos - I'd have to go to the chinese supermarket in town. I'm happy to eat takeaways full of it.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 02 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to use it now and then. It does seem to add a special something that's not quite describable, it doesn't mask bad taste but does make good food taste even better.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 02 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Werny wrote:
I like to use it now and then. It does seem to add a special something that's not quite describable

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PostPosted: 00:01 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My only knowing experience of it is in Chinese takeaways, where they chuck it about like there's no tomorrow.

After reading a bit about it (some years ago) I now ask my local Chinky to go a bit steady with it and, as a result, I don't wake up the next morning feeling like I've gone ten rounds with Frank Bruno.

Oh, and the food doesn't taste any different.
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PostPosted: 04:56 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's one of KFC's 'secret herbs and spices'!
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PostPosted: 05:57 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In almost all blind testing done on MSG the subjects that complained of exposure to MSG were not...

It's just non sense of the highest order.
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PostPosted: 06:39 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to use it when cooking Chinese food, haven't used it for years now, can't say I noticed the difference.
If you use good fresh ingredients you don't need it.

I find most Chinese food, in restaurants, is rubbish, sauces out of a bottle, loads of food colouring and stacks of MSG. Sick
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use it with absolutely no (short term) ill effects what-so-ever apart from memory loss with absolutely no (short term) ill effects what-so-ever apart from memory loss.

I'd have to assume that the nay-sayers are just showing some good old fashioned lacial plejudice.

In the long term, oxygen is toxic, so meh.
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My only complaint about it is that it increases appetite. Not as badly as sugar though so probably not worth worrying about too much.
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some from a chinese supermarket years ago, can't honestly say I could tell the difference with and without.

It's all gone now and I wont bother buying more - I mainly used to use it in my beef jerky, seemed to help it dry a bit quicker without tasting salty.
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally try my best to avoid it. Looking at the symptoms:

Headache
Flushing
Sweating
Facial pressure or tightness
Numbness, tingling or burning in the face, neck and other areas
Rapid, fluttering heartbeats (heart palpitations)
Chest pain
Nausea
Weakness

Just sounds to me like a hangover.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Looking at the symptoms


You know those are also reported by "sufferers" when given a placebo that they've been told is MSG?

Bunch of nancy boy dying swan drama queens.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Bubbs wrote:
Looking at the symptoms


You know those are also reported by "sufferers" when given a placebo that they've been told is MSG?

Bunch of nancy boy dying swan drama queens.


Is that true? I didn't avoid due to those symptoms. Only just googled it as I didn't realise MSG was so safe. Was always told it was evil and should be avoided or i'd die from cancer of the body.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not sure what it is, but it only happens when i eat chinese or Papa Johns Pizza.

I wake up in the middle of the night with cotton mouth gasping for a drink, i can drink 2-3 pints of water and wont feel quenched.

Also you know when you gotta pee so bad you dream about going ? , after a Papa Johns Pizza i dream about drinking water.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wave wrote:
Im not sure what it is, but it only happens when i eat chinese or Papa Johns Pizza.

I wake up in the middle of the night with cotton mouth gasping for a drink, i can drink 2-3 pints of water and wont feel quenched.


Pizza does the same to me, always put it down to the high salt causing dehydration:

https://calorielab.com/restaurants/papa-johns/14-cheese-original-crust-pizza/25/2764

Given that I always eat too much when I do order a pizza and 3 slices is your daily salt allowance I think it's a fair assumption. Chinese take away is also full of salt & sugar (sugar being a diuretic) which explains that too.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
Chinese take away is also full of salt & sugar (sugar being a diuretic) which explains that too.


Salt does not appear in any of the recipes in my, badly translated, chinese recipe book.
Probably explains why takeaway is fcukin' awful!
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
Given that I always eat too much when I do order a pizza and 3 slices is your daily salt allowance I think it's a fair assumption. Chinese take away is also full of salt & sugar (sugar being a diuretic) which explains that too.



Not to mention Chinese food is usually washed down with alcohol (also a diuretic). If I drink I always wake in the middle of the night with a mouth like a nun's clunge and a gallon of dilute piss to expel.

It is especially bad if I have been drinking a red wine loaded with astringent tannins (astringent tannins give some wines that dry, almost tightening feeling in your mouth). If you have ever licked a freshly picked sloe berry or got baby powder in your mouth, you will know what astringent compounds fell like.

Sleeping pills also give you the worst cases of dry mouth ever.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
daemonoid wrote:
Chinese take away is also full of salt & sugar (sugar being a diuretic) which explains that too.


Salt does not appear in any of the recipes in my, badly translated, chinese recipe book.
Probably explains why takeaway is fcukin' awful!


They use Soy sause instead no?
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, can't say I mind either way. The complaint about it is that it doesn't burn off like normal fat, I believe.

Either way, 2 years in Asia where use is rife, and I'm the fittest I've ever been.

I'd worry more about what's in the traditional British diet, as the amount of Aus/SA/Kiwi's who bitch about the 'Heathrow Injection' (gaining 10kg) suggests we're doing something wrong...
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying goose brand chilli sauce is full of it. So yes, I do.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 03 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
They use Soy sause instead no?


Correctamundo!
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